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Tesla's aren't locked into using Tesla chargers. They do have a proprietary connector on the vehicles but they come with several adapters including J1772. Super

by Mongus 8y ago

Tesla's aren't locked into using Tesla chargers. They do have a proprietary connector on the vehicles but they come with several adapters including J1772. Superchargers are a phenomenal perk, not a lock in.

saagarjha 8y ago
Are Superchargers free to use by people who have not bought Teslas?
- rconti 8y ago
  No, but the point is that this is not a reason Tesla won't succeed, it's just a reason that superchargers suck for non-Tesla EV owners. From a business standpoint, this is the right place to be; lock others out, but don't lock your customers in.
  - Mongus 8y ago
    Exactly. I don't think Tesla would have anywhere near the sales they've had without Superchargers. The other EV manufacturers need to figure out how to offer something similar if they want any chance of competing.
- Mongus 8y ago
  Superchargers only work with Teslas due to some signaling and they aren't free for all Teslas. You can get an adapter that goes from a Tesla connector to J1772 but it won't work at a Supercharger, just home or destination chargers.
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- jcheng 8y ago
  No, but https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-elon-musk-open-supercharger-network/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-elon-musk-open-supe... > One question posed during Wednesday's Tesla quarterly earnings call involved allowing other manufacturers to access Tesla's supercharger network and Elon Musk's response was surprising. > "This is not a walled garden." > By that Musk means that he's open to allowing other EV manufacturers to configure their vehicles to be able to use the Superchargers. He stipulates that these manufacturers would have to pay their fair share of the costs and would have to either adopt Tesla's plug standard or include an adapter in their vehicles.
- mlindner 8y ago
  In the US they can't even be used because the plug is different. Even if it weren't the superchargers access Tesla's services to hand over payment information when you plug in.
pkulak 8y ago
Until they have a combo adapter, they really don't have _the_ adapter.

by Mongus 8y ago

saagarjha 8y ago

Are Superchargers free to use by people who have not bought Teslas?

rconti 8y ago
No, but the point is that this is not a reason Tesla won't succeed, it's just a reason that superchargers suck for non-Tesla EV owners. From a business standpoint, this is the right place to be; lock others out, but don't lock your customers in.
- Mongus 8y ago
  Exactly. I don't think Tesla would have anywhere near the sales they've had without Superchargers. The other EV manufacturers need to figure out how to offer something similar if they want any chance of competing.
Mongus 8y ago
Superchargers only work with Teslas due to some signaling and they aren't free for all Teslas. You can get an adapter that goes from a Tesla connector to J1772 but it won't work at a Supercharger, just home or destination chargers.
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jcheng 8y ago
No, but https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-elon-musk-open-supercharger-network/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-elon-musk-open-supe... > One question posed during Wednesday's Tesla quarterly earnings call involved allowing other manufacturers to access Tesla's supercharger network and Elon Musk's response was surprising. > "This is not a walled garden." > By that Musk means that he's open to allowing other EV manufacturers to configure their vehicles to be able to use the Superchargers. He stipulates that these manufacturers would have to pay their fair share of the costs and would have to either adopt Tesla's plug standard or include an adapter in their vehicles.
mlindner 8y ago
In the US they can't even be used because the plug is different. Even if it weren't the superchargers access Tesla's services to hand over payment information when you plug in.

pkulak 8y ago

Until they have a combo adapter, they really don't have _the_ adapter.