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Until other companies step up and install DCFC stations everywhere Disclaimer: I am long TSLA I hightly doubt other car companies are gonna do this in a reaon
by deepGem 8y ago
Until other companies step up and install DCFC stations everywhere
Disclaimer: I am long TSLA
I hightly doubt other car companies are gonna do this in a reaonable time frame (3-4 years). They will rely on the dealer network to build out the chargers and suck up the setup cost. Now dealers can potentially finance this with debt and get this done, but I doubt GM or any car company will be able to get consensus from the dealers and roll this ouut fast.
- mediaman 8y agoAgreed, and locating them at dealers is often an impractical choice for drivers: they are not consistently located strategically next to highways, sometimes they put them in an area that is not physically accessible outside of business hours (e.g., fenced yard), and the incentive to maintain them is less.
- fossuser 8y agoThe current situation with dealers sucks for non-tesla EVs, they're often inside and not accessible. They have other cars parked in the way, the people at the dealer don't care, there aren't enough chargers etc.
- Robotbeat 8y agoYeah, dealers regularly park cars in EV charging spots.
- compcoffee 8y agoVW is building out chargers as part of the diesel scandal settlement. https://www.electrifyamerica.com/our-plan https://www.electrifyamerica.com/our-plan
- andrewmunsell 8y agoFunny enough, that's the one current huge investment outside of Tesla in charging infrastructure. If it takes a car company cheating on emissions and being forced to invest in electric, then all of them are going to be doomed to playing catch up.
- AshleyGrant 8y agoFor sure. I personally think that Electrify America is a stop gap. In the longer term, I would expect to see businesses that already exist near highway exits start to build out DCFC to lure potential customers. I live in the southeastern US. I have been saying for two years now that Cracker Barrel should be adding DC Fast chargers to each of its restaurants' parking lots. Who cares if the car takes 45 minutes to charge if I can grab a nice meal while I wait. I used this strategy on my recent Florida-Texas roundtrip in a Model 3. The Baton Rouge Tesla Supercharger is located next to an Acme Oyster House location. I ate a nice lunch while the car charged. I pulled in with a 10% charge and pulled out with about a 90% charge. It was a heck of a lot nicer than eating a hamburger while driving.
- Robotbeat 8y agoYeah, and they’re slow rolling it and plan to charge high prices. It’s frustrating to me as an EV owner. But perfectly logical if you want to appear to be doing something while in fact protecting fossil fuel car sales.
- rconti 8y agoPorsche said they will "plan to" install 500 DCFC chargers at... Porsche dealers.
- Robotbeat 8y agoThis is the same as what Nissan has done. It means cities are well covered but interstates are not.
- wmf 8y agoAll the other companies combined probably have fewer EVs on the road than Tesla. Building a charger network for 200,000+ Teslas makes sense, but building a similar network for 20,000 BMWs doesn't.
- shaklee3 8y agoI'm not sure where you get your information, but Tesla has 360k vehicles produced as of Q2 3018. The leaf alone is at 350k, making it "world's all-time best-selling highway-capable electric car in history". I think it's clear that Tesla comment is not true.
- user9995 8y ago>I'm not sure where you get your information, Laughable, isn't it? Once second of Google would prove it wrong. People literally don't care about reality when it comes to this company. Some PR site says it, and it becomes "fact". The list of things people claim Tesla has done/can do that has no basis in reality is long and growing longer.
- htkibar 8y agoIt is not as straightforward a process and TSLA has a huge head start on this regard.
- hef19898 8y agoHaving a proprietary charging system and network was necessary to get EVs into the market in the first place. A little bit like ICE powered cars. Back the day fuel could ibly be bought at pharmacies. In that regard Tesla is having, fir now, clear advantage over traditional car makers. Until, that is, these car makers agreed on a common standard for charging their cars. Once that standard is established (supercharger-like solutions) the risk for third parties to set up charging networks comparable to gas stations became very low. It is great to see Tesla turn a profit. But it seems to have some down sides, quality for example. Lets hope it is sustainable. I for my part am not convinced it is. We will see who is faster, Tesla at getting mass production right or competitors getting EVs developed and sold.