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Recent iOS updates turned off the throttling of phones with old batteries. Apple initially said this throttling was necessary to prevent unexpected shutdowns of

by wycy 8y ago

Recent iOS updates turned off the throttling of phones with old batteries. Apple initially said this throttling was necessary to prevent unexpected shutdowns of older phones. Now that the throttling is gone, have we seen a rash of unexpected shutdowns? I haven't heard of this happening, which leads me to believe the excuse was bs in the first place. EDIT: To be clear, I know that iPhones have always been known to unexpectedly shut down. Throttling performance was ostensibly meant to prevent these unexpected shutdowns. My question is whether or not the incidence of unexpected shutdowns increased once Apple lifted the throttle.

matchbok 8y ago
Just one experience here, but my old 6s used to shut down quite a bit once it neared the lower end of the battery life.
overcyn 8y ago
Heres a 31 page macrumors thread on it. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6s-turning-off-at-10-20.1954530/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6s-turning-off-a... https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/4vne2w/does_anyone_elses_iphone_randomly_die_at_around_20/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/4vne2w/does_anyone_e... And Apple cut the price of battery replacement from $79 -> $29 in response to it. https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/
- wycy 8y ago
  The linked MacRumors thread is from before this scandal even came to light, while Apple was still throttling. The thread begins in 2016 and ends in 2017. iOS 11.3 came out March 2018, removing the throttle. Unfortunately I can't check the reddit thread at the moment, as its blocked at work. EDIT: Reddit thread is also from prior to lifting the throttle.
  - overcyn 8y ago
    The throttle was not lifted in 11.3. They added a switch so users could disable it. https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/7/16984234/how-to-iphone-throttling-ios-11-3 https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/7/16984234/how-to-iphone-thr...
QuotedForTruth 8y ago
I dont currently have a phone old enough, but my iphones before this throttling was implemented did shutdown a lot once the battery was worn out. It would sometimes show 30%ish battery remaining, but if you tried to do something that required heavy load and thus extra power that the battery couldnt provide, it would shut down. Give it a minute and it would turn back on and happily run down to much closer to 0% before being truely dead. The throttling prevented sudden spikes in power usage. I dont think it was fundamentally a bad thing. It made your phone useful when it otherwise wouldnt be. A processor operating at 50% speed works a lot better than one that shuts itself off. But Apple probably should have been more clear about it and offered a toggle to turn it off.
evilduck 8y ago
You don't get millions of YT views or page clicks by reporting "yeah, I disabled throttling when prompted and sure enough, it continues to shut down just like they said it would" 6 months after a fix. Plus the bulk of the internet outrage has moved on through 3 other Apple "-gate" events since then.
raydev 8y ago
The shutdown protection is on by default, so the user needs to go into settings to do it. The number of people who actually turned it off is likely vanishingly small, which is why you're not hearing anything.

by wycy 8y ago

matchbok 8y ago

Just one experience here, but my old 6s used to shut down quite a bit once it neared the lower end of the battery life.

overcyn 8y ago

Heres a 31 page macrumors thread on it. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6s-turning-off-at-10-20.1954530/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6s-turning-off-a... https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/4vne2w/does_anyone_elses_iphone_randomly_die_at_around_20/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/4vne2w/does_anyone_e... And Apple cut the price of battery replacement from $79 -> $29 in response to it. https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/

wycy 8y ago
The linked MacRumors thread is from before this scandal even came to light, while Apple was still throttling. The thread begins in 2016 and ends in 2017. iOS 11.3 came out March 2018, removing the throttle. Unfortunately I can't check the reddit thread at the moment, as its blocked at work. EDIT: Reddit thread is also from prior to lifting the throttle.
- overcyn 8y ago
  The throttle was not lifted in 11.3. They added a switch so users could disable it. https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/7/16984234/how-to-iphone-throttling-ios-11-3 https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/7/16984234/how-to-iphone-thr...

QuotedForTruth 8y ago

I dont currently have a phone old enough, but my iphones before this throttling was implemented did shutdown a lot once the battery was worn out. It would sometimes show 30%ish battery remaining, but if you tried to do something that required heavy load and thus extra power that the battery couldnt provide, it would shut down. Give it a minute and it would turn back on and happily run down to much closer to 0% before being truely dead. The throttling prevented sudden spikes in power usage. I dont think it was fundamentally a bad thing. It made your phone useful when it otherwise wouldnt be. A processor operating at 50% speed works a lot better than one that shuts itself off. But Apple probably should have been more clear about it and offered a toggle to turn it off.

evilduck 8y ago

You don't get millions of YT views or page clicks by reporting "yeah, I disabled throttling when prompted and sure enough, it continues to shut down just like they said it would" 6 months after a fix. Plus the bulk of the internet outrage has moved on through 3 other Apple "-gate" events since then.

raydev 8y ago

The shutdown protection is on by default, so the user needs to go into settings to do it. The number of people who actually turned it off is likely vanishingly small, which is why you're not hearing anything.