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> Where's (4) Don't write slow software? Says who, the government? We are talking about court-imposed fines here, not consumer wishes. Do we want a literal slo

> Where's (4) Don't write slow software? Says who, the government? We are talking about court-imposed fines here, not consumer wishes. Do we want a literal slow-software police?

c0nducktr 8y ago
> Do we want a literal slow-software police? That obvious answer is no, but as I think back on how many times I've been frustrated by some poorly performing piece of shit application over the past year, it's starting to not seem so bad of a solution.
ginko 8y ago
>Do we want a literal slow-software police? Yes please!
Darthy 8y ago
> Do we want a literal slow-software police? This court case shows that we kinda now already have one. The phones from 5 years ago already had amazing processors with billions of cycles per second. They can probably do nearly everything. But you know us software engineers: "make it faster till it runs wells on my test kit, then oh well ship it!" I think this ruling is a nudge into a better way. Yes deplay updates for more than 2 years, but don't stop optimizing new stuff when the latest phone can run it pretty well - keep optimizing until devices from the last 5 years run it very well.
- geezerjay 8y ago
  > This court case shows that we kinda now already have one. That's patently wrong. The point of the fine was not that the phones were noticeably slower after the upgrade. The point of the fine was that the slowness was motivated as a way of inducing forced obsolescence. The manufacturers forced the updates with no rollback mechanism to render phones unusable and thus force their users to purchase replacements. If users could roll back the changes then the manufacturers wouldnt be fined.
vokep 8y ago
Yes. Immediately. If it can be shown that a piece of software written today has major functionality which also was written into any software before 2000, and the modern software has twice as much or more delay in its functionality, the author should be publicly executed. Maybe a little extreme but hey it'll provide an incentive :)

> Where's (4) Don't write slow software? Says who, the government? We are talking about court-imposed fines here, not consumer wishes. Do we want a literal slow-software police?

c0nducktr 8y ago

> Do we want a literal slow-software police? That obvious answer is no, but as I think back on how many times I've been frustrated by some poorly performing piece of shit application over the past year, it's starting to not seem so bad of a solution.

ginko 8y ago

>Do we want a literal slow-software police? Yes please!

Darthy 8y ago

> Do we want a literal slow-software police? This court case shows that we kinda now already have one. The phones from 5 years ago already had amazing processors with billions of cycles per second. They can probably do nearly everything. But you know us software engineers: "make it faster till it runs wells on my test kit, then oh well ship it!" I think this ruling is a nudge into a better way. Yes deplay updates for more than 2 years, but don't stop optimizing new stuff when the latest phone can run it pretty well - keep optimizing until devices from the last 5 years run it very well.

geezerjay 8y ago
> This court case shows that we kinda now already have one. That's patently wrong. The point of the fine was not that the phones were noticeably slower after the upgrade. The point of the fine was that the slowness was motivated as a way of inducing forced obsolescence. The manufacturers forced the updates with no rollback mechanism to render phones unusable and thus force their users to purchase replacements. If users could roll back the changes then the manufacturers wouldnt be fined.

vokep 8y ago

Yes. Immediately. If it can be shown that a piece of software written today has major functionality which also was written into any software before 2000, and the modern software has twice as much or more delay in its functionality, the author should be publicly executed. Maybe a little extreme but hey it'll provide an incentive :)