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This is fantastic. Imagine having to cite "Anonymous user on 4chan" on your paper. I'd probably just do it for the novelty (who else can say they have a more u
by montenegrohugo 8y ago
This is fantastic. Imagine having to cite "Anonymous user on 4chan" on your paper.
I'd probably just do it for the novelty (who else can say they have a more unusual source??)
- z_open 8y agoEthically do you even have to cite something properly when the person who solved it was intentionally anonymous? If the concern is that people will think the person writing solved it, they can just write a sentence where it came from.
- ceejayoz 8y ago> Ethically do you even have to cite something properly when the person who solved it was intentionally anonymous? Yes. Not because they need/want the credit, but because it's important to note that it's not your idea. > If the concern is that people will think the person writing solved it, they can just write a sentence where it came from. That is, basically, what a citation is.
- k__ 8y agoWho can proof that it isn't your idea?
- GiuseppaAcciaio 8y agoNot to mention that a citation is there not only to show the world whose content you are referencing, but also because in case the reader doesn't believe you and wants to go check, they can do so by following the citation
- dzdt 8y agoAcademia has no problem with pseudonymous publication. See "Student" of "Student's T distribution" fame. [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sealy_Gosset https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sealy_Gosset
- avinassh 8y ago> Academia has no problem with pseudonymous publication another great example is Bitcoin paper.
- hkmurakami 8y agoI guess we cite the poster's hash and timestamp?
- rtkwe 8y agoYou'd need a link for people to see the original content too so you'd want to include a link to one of the archive sites I guess (as a second best source for an ephemeral post). It's odd but there are citation patterns for websites, wonder if they include a standard for including archives of sources not available at time of writing.
- huntie 8y agoWhat do you mean by hash? 4chan posts use an incrementing id per board, so if you put >>>/sci/3751197 you have a unique identifier for the post (sci being the board and 3751197 being the post number). For convenience you could link to an archive site as well, but they're known to die every few years.
- gfosco 8y agoSome boards like /pol/ have a user hash, unique per user-session, stable across posts.
- huntie 8y agoAh I forgot about that. It would certainly be a good idea to include it if available. Do you know if it is necessary for a unique id? I've never browsed any of the boards with user hashes.
- gfosco 8y agoNot sure what you mean by necessary. Post id would still be unique.
- claudiawerner 8y agoThe hashes assigned to your IP on the boards that have them are per-thread to my knowledge. All your posts in one thread will have a particular hash, but your post in another thread will have a different one.
- fs111 8y agociting "anonymous", if it is unclear who the author is, is nothing new. I did that a long time ago when I a cited something from the nmap man page in a paper for university . Back then it was unclear - at least to me - who the author is. This is a very common practice. I do not see, where the novelty is.
- RowBoat6123 8y agoBill Thurston cited personal communication with himself, which is a pretty unusual source.
- mietek 8y agoInevitably, I’m going to have to ask for a reference.
- chrislipa 8y agoHe used to sit on the floor of his office with the lights off under a giant moving box and brainstorm math. Reference: personal communication
- RowBoat6123 8y agoAmusingly enough, it's personal communication with one of his students.
- anticensor 8y agoI will reject a paper if it references a private communication with author oneself. Just tell the truth, undisclosed prior work.
- RowBoat6123 8y agoI believe it was his thesis and I assume it was tongue in cheek.