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I originally took this opportunity to critique the idea that Cook can stand to take a strong stance on privacy because their business model relies on selling an

by nyxtom 8y ago

I originally took this opportunity to critique the idea that Cook can stand to take a strong stance on privacy because their business model relies on selling an actual product and said product can only be affordable if you leverage cheap labor (and given historical context: very questionable working conditions). However, for the sake of maintaining consistency with the article and staying relevant I have revised this post. Tim Cook is there to give a speech at a Privacy conference. I thought his comments were consistent with how Apple has been presenting itself over the last years. This gives me some confidence that Cook will continue to lead and push for stronger privacy laws while fighting against politicians who look to weaken encryption

schuke 8y ago
You're mistaking Apple for Hooli.
nneonneo 8y ago
I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that Apple was in fact aware of those issues, and has in fact worked both on documenting them and fixing them: https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/ https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/ This is transparency - following through and actually giving a damn about things like child labor. They found 2 cases of underage labor in 2017 after auditing 756 facilities and over 1.3M workers. They made it a core violation of their supplier code, meaning that if and when underage labor is found via audit, that supplier loses its business with Apple. Go read the report - you might find that Apple is a pretty damn thorough company when it comes to responsible labor. Is there more they could do? Yes, there always is - but they're doing quite well so far.
- nyxtom 8y ago
  Indeed, my original comment referenced the transparency reporting that I have grown to appreciate from Apple. I wish more companies did as thorough job showing every piece of the supply chain. I revised the comment because I felt like it was just bashing without relevance to the actual article content. Thanks for the follow up comment to further clarify the transparency aspect. I know not every company wants to show exactly where they get their material from, but it is pretty incredible to see where material is sourced from and how it is manufactured and ultimately made into a product. Supply chains need to be this transparent

by nyxtom 8y ago

schuke 8y ago

You're mistaking Apple for Hooli.

nneonneo 8y ago

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that Apple was in fact aware of those issues, and has in fact worked both on documenting them and fixing them: https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/ https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/ This is transparency - following through and actually giving a damn about things like child labor. They found 2 cases of underage labor in 2017 after auditing 756 facilities and over 1.3M workers. They made it a core violation of their supplier code, meaning that if and when underage labor is found via audit, that supplier loses its business with Apple. Go read the report - you might find that Apple is a pretty damn thorough company when it comes to responsible labor. Is there more they could do? Yes, there always is - but they're doing quite well so far.

nyxtom 8y ago
Indeed, my original comment referenced the transparency reporting that I have grown to appreciate from Apple. I wish more companies did as thorough job showing every piece of the supply chain. I revised the comment because I felt like it was just bashing without relevance to the actual article content. Thanks for the follow up comment to further clarify the transparency aspect. I know not every company wants to show exactly where they get their material from, but it is pretty incredible to see where material is sourced from and how it is manufactured and ultimately made into a product. Supply chains need to be this transparent