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Holla - An open source Campfire
- sliverstorm 16y agoNo offense, but that custom scroll bar on the right is incredibly annoying. It's way to skinny to grab with the mouse without paying an inordinate amount of attention to my pointer.
- henning 16y agoMaking a custom scroll bar that is a beautiful and unique snowflake is probably a recipe for failure. See, e.g., http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20050711.html http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20050711.html
- yatsyk 16y agoGoogle Wave... it so obvious now :)
- mhd 16y agoI remember when "no more weird scroll-bars" was mentioned as one of the benefits of ditching Flash…
- ilovecomputers 16y agoThat's Tim Van Damme's scrollbar: http://maxvoltar.com/ http://maxvoltar.com/
- DrJokepu 16y agoIt's hyper annoying. Not being able to scroll with the mouse wheel makes me really frustrated. It's things like that that make people click on the back button of the browser instantly.
- jonknee 16y agoIt's also completely broken on the iPad... I cant scroll at all.
- maccman 16y agoOk, I get the message :) - it's gone now
- aik 16y agoAgreed. Scroll-wheel not working and a pain to grab. Annoying.
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- WA 16y agoGithub links to the demo here: http://getholla.com http://getholla.com
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- PStamatiou 16y agoOh boy.. remember when Google App Engine launched with a demo (and free) app resembling Campfire? 37signals cried foul until Google took it offline. Let's hope 37s doesn't hear about this one..
- karterk 16y agoTo their defense, that demo did look very much like a clone of Campfire.
- AlfaWolph 16y agoIt was a freaking chat room!
- tptacek 16y agoIt was a note for note cover of the 37Signals UI that was clearly designed to evoke Campfire, done by Google. What's the web chat room designed prior to Campfire that looks virtually identical to Campfire?
- points 16y agoEvery chatroom looks the same. It's like moaning that email clients steal UI from each other. Of course they do.
- iampims 16y agowasn't it Basecamp instead of Campfire?
- tablatom 16y agoVery nice. Another nitpick - I really like what Apple have been trying to do to in creating a UI affordance that says "this is a search box" - i.e. a text entry with round ends. I hope all the devs out there can join in and not use that appearance for regular text fields.
- Qz 16y agoThe screenshot doesn't fit in my normal browser window and I don't get a horizontal scrollbar to pan to the right. Could just be Firefox 4 being buggy though.
- hariscusto 16y agoNice, but demo would be great :)
- hariscusto 16y agoOk, i Found it :) it's on: http://getholla.com http://getholla.com
- bjonathan 16y agogreat product! I love it. We currently use Jaconda.im at my office. Holla seems as good ! Only one little bug in the demo, when I click on "XMPP/Jabber" I'm redirect to http://getholla.com/$%7BgetXMPP%28%29%7D http://getholla.com/$%7BgetXMPP%28%29%7D with an error (The page you were looking for doesn't exist)
- maccman 16y agoAh yes, I'm planning on adding xmpp support soon - it shouldn't have been exposed on getholla (it's stripped out of the Github version)
- nowarninglabel 16y agoPlease do. I'm being willing to pay for such an app with XMPP support. Have tried Campfire, Ignite/sparkweb, all the versions of jabber I can find, and various IRC servers. So far I have not found a single one that I can successfully install on a RHEL server that will do both a web interface and an XMPP/Jabber backend so that my team can communicate effectively.
- twidlit 16y agoI felt so stupid for about 10 minutes repeatedly trying to find the demo username/password in this thread and the github docs. until i realized that there was a signup button...
- growt 16y agoI really like the design. Is it made for holla or for another OS project (diaspora?)?
- maccman 16y agoI made it for Holla - from the jQuery Mobile mockups http://jquerymobile.com/designs http://jquerymobile.com/designs
- Kilimanjaro 16y ago* ignore post, typing problems, my dog ate my keyboard.
- swanson 16y agoI had never heard about Juggernaut -- is it any different than Socket.IO? A cursory glance indicates they are very similar.
- maccman 16y agoJuggernaut uses Socket.IO. I guess it's basically an abstraction on Socket.IO, adding channel support.
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- fdeth 16y agoGood start but it's a bit single rainbow right now. It will take a looong time to become as useful as Campfire because all of the hooks/apps for it that already exist. Opensource is nice but Holla needs some kind of passion-creating feature/vision that would attract a decent community of contributors.
- moeffju 16y agoIt looks neat, but it doesn't seem to work - I joined a room, invited a coworker, and we couldn't see each others messages. Upon reload, the old messages showed up, but e.g. picture previews didn't. Is this a load problem?
- maccman 16y agoNode went down unfortunately, give it another go.
- christopherslee 16y agolooks great!
- grumpycanuck 16y agoI must be an old curmudgeon because whenever I see Campfire I think "it's like IRC but with a better client" and wonder what the big deal is. Sure, it's in a browser but is it really that big a deal? I just can't seem to get properly excited about Campfire and it's ilk.
- smiler 16y agoIndeed. One of the things that makes me laugh as well is that 37signals themselves use Propane - which is an OS X app which gives campfire a more desktop-like experience. IRC is still great
- swilliams 16y agoThat it's not typically blocked by crappy Internet firewalls/filters is a big bonus. This is a big deal for me since plenty of the places I consult at tend to be a little overzealous in the "security" department.
- look_lookatme 16y agoThe ability to have context on room join is the deal maker where I work. IRC doesn't work that way.
- DTrejo 16y agoHow would you feel if chatrooms like this could "bridge" into the IRC room of your choice? (Any message in the chat room goes to the irc room, and vice versa).
- alttab 16y agoThe 'browse' button for finding an avatar picture on the signup page is over-flow cut-off'd in the form's container. Firefox.
- psadauskas 16y agoThe only thing I dislike about Campfire is that it doesn't support some other protocol, like XMPP or IRC, so that I can use it in a normal chat client, with normal chat client features, like desktop notifications. This one doesn't seem to, either.
- smiler 16y agoIf you use OS X, try http://propaneapp.com/ http://propaneapp.com/
- Zev 16y agoPropane doesn't support IRC/XMPP/any other group chat protocol.
- psadauskas 16y agoI did, when I was on OSX... but now I've switched back to Linux, and kinda miss it. It would be great if I could just connect to Campfire with Pidgin, or any libpurple chat client.
- points 16y agoTry Mibbit. It also does desktop notifications now (In Chrome).
- fastundia 16y ago:)
- ashitvora 16y agoCouple of suggestions. 1. It would make more sense to have Textbox at the bottom instead of top. When you enter something, you see your message right above your textbox. 2. Instead of having separate area for dropping files, why not allow users to drop files in the same textbox where you type your message. 3. Bubbles doesn't look nice. I mean, it looks good as a demo but not when you use the product. It is sort of a distraction. I would rather like to see zebra stripes(may be #ffffff and #f1f1f1). 4. I like to see list of users on the sidebar instead of on chat area.
- kloncks 16y agoPotentially stupid question, but what are zebra stripes in web design?
- ashitvora 16y agogive different colors to alternate rows to differentiate the messages. like http://www.alistapart.com/d/stripedtables/itunes.png http://www.alistapart.com/d/stripedtables/itunes.png Here they use white and light blue.
- Semiapies 16y agoWhen different items in a list or rows in a table have alternating colors.
- randall 16y agoMy helpful alternative: http://partychapp.appspot.com/ http://partychapp.appspot.com/ It's a chatroom for Google Talk.