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But this isn't a warming or cooling cycle caused by any external event, but rather one caused by humans. It's not going to "switch back" to cooling, and this i

But this isn't a warming or cooling cycle caused by any external event, but rather one caused by humans. It's not going to "switch back" to cooling, and this is indeed very new, entirely unprecedented in Earth's existence, and supported by mountains of evidence. The massive amount of pollution we've dumped into the atmosphere is causing irrevocable, widespread, vast changes to the Earth. All of the above is stuff any kindergartener knows.

notyourwork 8y ago
You lose people when you don't include any evidence and say "supported by mountains of evidence". (I agree with your point but please supplement your claim with evidence.)
- hobs 8y ago
  Only if we allow sealioning to take over - global climate change is in the realm of accepted science, its 100% on people claiming the opposite to prove their claims at this point.
  - striking 8y ago
    You're not necessarily arguing directly against the other person, you're also playing the room. Every time you talk to someone who denies climate change is another chance to convince them and everyone who is reading of what you believe. So in my opinion it's best to cite your own evidence regardless of how accepted your beliefs are by an establishment, rather than just saying the other side has the burden of proof. Whether or not this comes from a pre-curated set of talking points is up to you.
    - hobs 8y ago
      Feel free to - but asking people to show their evidence for generally accepted stuff is a great way for trolls to waste your time with useless questions - literally why the term sealioning was invented. If you want to bring up new evidence and arguments that are not settled then go for it, but asking everyone to post their pedigree to talk about evolution or climate change is just catering to an american audience who is purposefully putting their fingers in their ears - we have no reason to cater to willfully ignorant people.
      - notyourwork 8y ago
        Generally accepted and the US government continually passes legislation that doesn't agree. I'm not sure I agree with "generally accepted".

notyourwork 8y ago

You lose people when you don't include any evidence and say "supported by mountains of evidence". (I agree with your point but please supplement your claim with evidence.)

hobs 8y ago
Only if we allow sealioning to take over - global climate change is in the realm of accepted science, its 100% on people claiming the opposite to prove their claims at this point.
- striking 8y ago
  You're not necessarily arguing directly against the other person, you're also playing the room. Every time you talk to someone who denies climate change is another chance to convince them and everyone who is reading of what you believe. So in my opinion it's best to cite your own evidence regardless of how accepted your beliefs are by an establishment, rather than just saying the other side has the burden of proof. Whether or not this comes from a pre-curated set of talking points is up to you.
  - hobs 8y ago
    Feel free to - but asking people to show their evidence for generally accepted stuff is a great way for trolls to waste your time with useless questions - literally why the term sealioning was invented. If you want to bring up new evidence and arguments that are not settled then go for it, but asking everyone to post their pedigree to talk about evolution or climate change is just catering to an american audience who is purposefully putting their fingers in their ears - we have no reason to cater to willfully ignorant people.
    - notyourwork 8y ago
      Generally accepted and the US government continually passes legislation that doesn't agree. I'm not sure I agree with "generally accepted".