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I don’t really think the government needs to legislate this. I buy iPhones because I don’t give a shit about repairability. I use the phone for 3-4 years and th

by fipple 8y ago

I don’t really think the government needs to legislate this. I buy iPhones because I don’t give a shit about repairability. I use the phone for 3-4 years and then set it up as basically a remote control in my house until it’s useless. If I break it out of warranty I throw it out. Other people who care about repairability can buy other brands.

MattHeard 8y ago
Recycle your Apple devices by returning them to Apple. You might get in-store credit: https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in
devwastaken 8y ago
Except hardware and software are patentable. If we didn't have that and companies could make true alternatives, sure, but as far as technology goes it's highly monopalistic. Your argument is also the definition of selfishness given that you only take into account your own circumstances. You're literally advocating against yourself.
- fipple 8y ago
  No, I’m saying that different peoples needs are different. I’d rather have the phone 1mm thinner than repairable. You may be different. Companies should compete for our custom.
- leetcrew 8y ago
  i honestly don't think any significant fraction of iphone buyers care about repairability. if they do at all, i really doubt they care enough to compromise on price or visual appeal / thinness. could be you're the selfish one trying to bend the entire industry towards your fringe interest.
- lobotryas 8y ago
  I don't think GP is selfish - he's just outlining what works for him and what his use-case is. For example, I kind-of care about repairability, but not enough to go through the effort of switching from the iOS echosystem. Finally, what's wrong with being selfish? I think it's a completely rational approach to take.
  - avgDev 8y ago
    I don't have a problem with selfishness, however, I do feel like not caring about repair ability of a device is a bit more complicated. Plus, apple likes to bully people, just take a look at the recent seizure of Rossmanns batteries. Frankly, this is a much bigger problem. The world is moving to everything being a subscription rather than true ownership. Often, people that once did not care will start caring eventually. When your macbook pro breaks and you can fix it yourself for $100 but the apple store tells you it will be $1000....your point of view will shift drastically.
sandworm101 8y ago
>> If I break it out of warranty I throw it out. Other people who care about repairability can buy other brands. One of the many reasons I don't use Apple products. I don't want to throw away technology because the battery wears out, or the screen cracks. Setting aside the environmental nightmares, I don't want to participate in planned obsolescence. My phone dies when I say it can die, not when a manufacturer deems it time for me to give them more money. I also don't throw away cars when their paint chips or the radiator leaks.
- jamroom 8y ago
  I buy mostly Apple specifically because I find the build quality ensures they last the longest. I'm still using a 2009 Macbook on a daily basis, and my youngest daughter is using my original iPhone 4.
syshum 8y ago
The good old Consumerist Mentality that will be the downfall of humanity. Everything should be repairable and everything should be repaired, you should not "toss out" electronics in 3 years (or in 18 months like Apple would prefer you toss out in) The enviromental costs alone should be enough to require this, given your mentality I am sure you do not properly recycle it, but even if you do send to an electronics recycling facility most of them are operating in less than ideal or environmentally friendly ways especially when it comes to Apple contracts given that Apple requires the shredding of all devices and they can not be refurbished or reused Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. Recycle should be the LAST option not the go to default.

by fipple 8y ago

MattHeard 8y ago

Recycle your Apple devices by returning them to Apple. You might get in-store credit: https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in

devwastaken 8y ago

Except hardware and software are patentable. If we didn't have that and companies could make true alternatives, sure, but as far as technology goes it's highly monopalistic. Your argument is also the definition of selfishness given that you only take into account your own circumstances. You're literally advocating against yourself.

fipple 8y ago
No, I’m saying that different peoples needs are different. I’d rather have the phone 1mm thinner than repairable. You may be different. Companies should compete for our custom.
leetcrew 8y ago
i honestly don't think any significant fraction of iphone buyers care about repairability. if they do at all, i really doubt they care enough to compromise on price or visual appeal / thinness. could be you're the selfish one trying to bend the entire industry towards your fringe interest.
lobotryas 8y ago
I don't think GP is selfish - he's just outlining what works for him and what his use-case is. For example, I kind-of care about repairability, but not enough to go through the effort of switching from the iOS echosystem. Finally, what's wrong with being selfish? I think it's a completely rational approach to take.
- avgDev 8y ago
  I don't have a problem with selfishness, however, I do feel like not caring about repair ability of a device is a bit more complicated. Plus, apple likes to bully people, just take a look at the recent seizure of Rossmanns batteries. Frankly, this is a much bigger problem. The world is moving to everything being a subscription rather than true ownership. Often, people that once did not care will start caring eventually. When your macbook pro breaks and you can fix it yourself for $100 but the apple store tells you it will be $1000....your point of view will shift drastically.

sandworm101 8y ago

>> If I break it out of warranty I throw it out. Other people who care about repairability can buy other brands. One of the many reasons I don't use Apple products. I don't want to throw away technology because the battery wears out, or the screen cracks. Setting aside the environmental nightmares, I don't want to participate in planned obsolescence. My phone dies when I say it can die, not when a manufacturer deems it time for me to give them more money. I also don't throw away cars when their paint chips or the radiator leaks.

jamroom 8y ago
I buy mostly Apple specifically because I find the build quality ensures they last the longest. I'm still using a 2009 Macbook on a daily basis, and my youngest daughter is using my original iPhone 4.

syshum 8y ago

The good old Consumerist Mentality that will be the downfall of humanity. Everything should be repairable and everything should be repaired, you should not "toss out" electronics in 3 years (or in 18 months like Apple would prefer you toss out in) The enviromental costs alone should be enough to require this, given your mentality I am sure you do not properly recycle it, but even if you do send to an electronics recycling facility most of them are operating in less than ideal or environmentally friendly ways especially when it comes to Apple contracts given that Apple requires the shredding of all devices and they can not be refurbished or reused Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. Recycle should be the LAST option not the go to default.