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The story is weird, and yes, they should be able to produce a board, surely. They maybe got caught with their pants down. But it doesn't matter - this is happe

The story is weird, and yes, they should be able to produce a board, surely. They maybe got caught with their pants down. But it doesn't matter - this is happening 100% guaranteed. 'We' do it and China has become far more aggressive in these areas these days ... so if they could be doing it, they would be. Someone should come up with a bit of proof though.

Barrin92 8y ago
evidence is usually required for statements like " this is happening 100% guaranteed." I don't know what brave new world we have entered where journalists, or even online users for that matter, make confident claims about things for which there is no physical evidence.
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  A very close friend of mine led customer support for a large American IT company in the middle east where US federal agents were posed as support staff. I worked at a large high-tech firm with business in the middle east, including content-filtering solutions and we were basically 'required' to work with Western governmental entities of a 'security nature'. The US has massive clandestine projects in this regard and some of them are not so secret - consider the recent Wikileaks: [1] "The US intelligence agency has been involved in a concerted effort to write various kinds of malware to spy on just about every piece of electronic equipment that people use. That includes iPhones, Androids and computers running Windows, macOS and Linux." [1] https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/wikileaks-cia-what-are-they-explained-vault-7-year-zero-julian-assange-secrets-a7616826.html https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/ne... All countries with active spy/clandestine agencies are spying on one another using malware, spyware, hardware hacking, phishing, social engineering, whatever. And many firms are complicit to one degree or another. That Apple or AWS etc. may have been compromised with a specific attack makes for a really weird story - but that this is happening in general is a non-story - of course it is. It's not about this specific attack really.
- unparagoned 8y ago
  I promise you that my dad works at microsoft and he has a chip I add to my ps4 to make it play Xbox games, you can't see it because it's too small becaise he also secretly works for the new. He taught me how to program the chips and I can do anything with them.

Barrin92 8y ago

evidence is usually required for statements like " this is happening 100% guaranteed." I don't know what brave new world we have entered where journalists, or even online users for that matter, make confident claims about things for which there is no physical evidence.

sonnyblarney 8y ago
A very close friend of mine led customer support for a large American IT company in the middle east where US federal agents were posed as support staff. I worked at a large high-tech firm with business in the middle east, including content-filtering solutions and we were basically 'required' to work with Western governmental entities of a 'security nature'. The US has massive clandestine projects in this regard and some of them are not so secret - consider the recent Wikileaks: [1] "The US intelligence agency has been involved in a concerted effort to write various kinds of malware to spy on just about every piece of electronic equipment that people use. That includes iPhones, Androids and computers running Windows, macOS and Linux." [1] https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/wikileaks-cia-what-are-they-explained-vault-7-year-zero-julian-assange-secrets-a7616826.html https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/ne... All countries with active spy/clandestine agencies are spying on one another using malware, spyware, hardware hacking, phishing, social engineering, whatever. And many firms are complicit to one degree or another. That Apple or AWS etc. may have been compromised with a specific attack makes for a really weird story - but that this is happening in general is a non-story - of course it is. It's not about this specific attack really.
unparagoned 8y ago
I promise you that my dad works at microsoft and he has a chip I add to my ps4 to make it play Xbox games, you can't see it because it's too small becaise he also secretly works for the new. He taught me how to program the chips and I can do anything with them.