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Didn’t downvote you but wanted to respond- Smells bad can itself be a big deal. Some people also have migraines that result from inhaling second hand marijuana

Didn’t downvote you but wanted to respond- Smells bad can itself be a big deal. Some people also have migraines that result from inhaling second hand marijuana smoke. Moreover, many people don’t want to smell the stuff in their daily commute- and the smell definitely lingers longer, than say, tobacco, in an open space. I’m not opposed to legalization, but saying that there’s no societal harm is pretty misinformed too. Seemingly minor things like ‘smells bad’ can easily make one hate cannabis.

bfuller 8y ago
Everyone is moving to vaping distillate. There's virtually no smell if you're outdoors.
klank 8y ago
> Seemingly minor things like ‘smells bad’ can easily make one hate cannabis. I think an individual hating something doesn't necessarily elevate that thing to the level of "societal harm". For example, durian smells bad. Many people hate it because of its smell. However, I've never heard somebody go on about the harm durian is causing to society.
- Mediterraneo10 8y ago
  Durian is banned in the Singapore metro (with a sign alerting to the prohibition that has gone viral) because of its smell. Calling for keeping marijuana strictly illegal based on its smell is silly. Still, the smell is just as noxious as cigarette smoke to many people. I found walking around downtown Montevideo annoying. Legalization should come with some measures against smoking in public, just like those being applied to tobacco in many places around the world.
nosleeptill 8y ago
When both the negative and positives are all added up I think legalizing will have a moderate to large positive overall impact.
Fnoord 8y ago
I smell this every day in Amsterdam metro when I commute from work (the other way around not so much). I'm currently a non-smoker. If you 'smell it' you subconsciously feel like you are forced 'smoking it' akin to involuntary second hand tobacco usage. Whether that is true or not I do not know. As a former tobacco and former casual marihuana smoker I dislike either of these smells. I consciously quit both, both for very good personal reasons. There are obvious health related risks to abstain smoking tobacco but for me I have autism and marihuana can make me over-sensitised and get me into a psychosis. This occurred numerous times. Yes, there are benefits to marihuana and specifically CBD. My uncle had terminal cancer and hash oil helped him against this pain (he was AFAIK never pro-drugs or pro-marihuana before he got cancer). And there are disadvantages as well. I'm a proponent of education and regulation, just like with alcohol.
- citrablue 8y ago
  I also feel like when I smell someones body odor that I have unconsciously been forced to ingest their bacterial waste. Living amongst other people, we have to accept that there will be things we don't like about it.
  - cbluth 8y ago
    Yeah, take a shower, geez.
  - Fnoord 8y ago
    There's this social norm where you don't cause discomfort such as noise or pollution for other people. Some people overdo it with way too much perfume; those are equally annoying. The difference however is that although such might over-sensitise someone with e.g. (undiagnosed) autism your example is not proven to be harmful for the lungs, nor does it make you stoned.
    - citrablue 8y ago
      What's the latest consensus on secondhand smoke and cancer/COPD issues? I thought the "I smelled cigarette smoke on the street" exposure was largely found to have negligible health effects. (I think the "my partner smokes and i live in a smokers house" exposure still causes issues)
smileysteve 8y ago
> Smells bad can itself be a big deal. Some people also have migraines that result from inhaling second hand marijuana smoke. Both of these apply to a not insignificant amount of the population when it comes to perfumes and flowers too. We should make Abercrombie cologne illegal; I sneeze at least twice when walking through the mall and sometimes get headaches.

bfuller 8y ago

Everyone is moving to vaping distillate. There's virtually no smell if you're outdoors.

klank 8y ago

> Seemingly minor things like ‘smells bad’ can easily make one hate cannabis. I think an individual hating something doesn't necessarily elevate that thing to the level of "societal harm". For example, durian smells bad. Many people hate it because of its smell. However, I've never heard somebody go on about the harm durian is causing to society.

Mediterraneo10 8y ago
Durian is banned in the Singapore metro (with a sign alerting to the prohibition that has gone viral) because of its smell. Calling for keeping marijuana strictly illegal based on its smell is silly. Still, the smell is just as noxious as cigarette smoke to many people. I found walking around downtown Montevideo annoying. Legalization should come with some measures against smoking in public, just like those being applied to tobacco in many places around the world.

nosleeptill 8y ago

When both the negative and positives are all added up I think legalizing will have a moderate to large positive overall impact.

Fnoord 8y ago

I smell this every day in Amsterdam metro when I commute from work (the other way around not so much). I'm currently a non-smoker. If you 'smell it' you subconsciously feel like you are forced 'smoking it' akin to involuntary second hand tobacco usage. Whether that is true or not I do not know. As a former tobacco and former casual marihuana smoker I dislike either of these smells. I consciously quit both, both for very good personal reasons. There are obvious health related risks to abstain smoking tobacco but for me I have autism and marihuana can make me over-sensitised and get me into a psychosis. This occurred numerous times. Yes, there are benefits to marihuana and specifically CBD. My uncle had terminal cancer and hash oil helped him against this pain (he was AFAIK never pro-drugs or pro-marihuana before he got cancer). And there are disadvantages as well. I'm a proponent of education and regulation, just like with alcohol.

citrablue 8y ago
I also feel like when I smell someones body odor that I have unconsciously been forced to ingest their bacterial waste. Living amongst other people, we have to accept that there will be things we don't like about it.
- cbluth 8y ago
  Yeah, take a shower, geez.
- Fnoord 8y ago
  There's this social norm where you don't cause discomfort such as noise or pollution for other people. Some people overdo it with way too much perfume; those are equally annoying. The difference however is that although such might over-sensitise someone with e.g. (undiagnosed) autism your example is not proven to be harmful for the lungs, nor does it make you stoned.
  - citrablue 8y ago
    What's the latest consensus on secondhand smoke and cancer/COPD issues? I thought the "I smelled cigarette smoke on the street" exposure was largely found to have negligible health effects. (I think the "my partner smokes and i live in a smokers house" exposure still causes issues)

smileysteve 8y ago

> Smells bad can itself be a big deal. Some people also have migraines that result from inhaling second hand marijuana smoke. Both of these apply to a not insignificant amount of the population when it comes to perfumes and flowers too. We should make Abercrombie cologne illegal; I sneeze at least twice when walking through the mall and sometimes get headaches.