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Because flu is painful and takes days out of your life, while the shot is (relatively) painless and takes 15 minutes out of your Walgreens shopping time? The f
by DenisM 8y ago
Because flu is painful and takes days out of your life, while the shot is (relatively) painless and takes 15 minutes out of your Walgreens shopping time?
The flu shot cuts down infection probability by 2/3. If a given unvaccinated person gets flu 6 years out of 10, that same person with vaccination would only get sick 2 years out of 10. This is a huge difference.
Whether they used last year's strain or any other method is immaterial so long as it delivers the 2/3 reduction.
- classicsnoot 8y agoThat seems very short sighted in evolutionary terms. Guns, Germs, and Steel has served to give me a bit of trepidation about avoiding sickness for convenience sake.
- DenisM 8y agoOkay. Which diseases are you willing to brave to facilitate the continuous evolution of mankind? Flu? Hepatitis-C? Polio?
- kazinator 8y agoWe have a real vaccine for polio that is 99% effective after three doses.
- DenisM 8y agoSo?
- kazinator 8y agoAnd doesn't have to be taken year after year for new strains of polio, filling your immunological memory with outdated junk. So, apples and oranges. There are reasons to have reservations about flu shots that do not apply to polio and such.
- lawlessone 8y ago> filling your immunological memory with outdated junk. you have no idea what you are talking about.
- kazinator 8y agoSo, enlighten me, immunologist. What purpose is currently served in your body by the imprint created by a flu shot that you had seven years ago (at which time it was 60% effective at best to begin with)?
- classicsnoot 8y agoI didn't mean to offend. I'm a historian so I tend to think in blocks of time. I often miss the moment. It is a failing. I should have thought before I posted.
- dhshsjsjd 8y ago“ If a given unvaccinated person gets flu 6 years out of 10,” 6 years out of ten? Dude, the ppl around you are not washing their hands!
- kazinator 8y agoAnd you must be riding the public transit system instead of driving or taking the bike.
- rpedela 8y agoYes, all you have to do is wash your hands and no more flu. /s
- dhshsjsjd 8y agoLove the sarcasm. 6/10 in a year? Look at the stats, it’s more like 5-20% a year of ppl get the flu. So the OPs sample population clearly has hygiene or immunological problems. And yes, washing hands is very effective. It’s probably the single most important health advancement since the industrial revolution. Aside from getting sneezed at what other mechanical vector is going to be as effective as hands?
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