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Slight aside, but I love websites like these. They're so reminiscent of the "old" internet. Not filled with ads, pop-ups, and two dozen prompts asking for my em

Slight aside, but I love websites like these. They're so reminiscent of the "old" internet. Not filled with ads, pop-ups, and two dozen prompts asking for my email. Loads fast, has useful information, and isn't trying to "game" the search engines with bloated pages.

cstuder 8y ago
Your adblocker probably deceived you: There's both Google Analytics and Google Ads on that page.
- baud147258 8y ago
  The ads are not pop-up and they do not interupt the content, since they are only on the side. And they are not visible for most of the page. Edit: I don't disagree with your point, but it's not as bad as say, most news articles. Also I didn't check to see if there was other trackers, in addition to GA. As it stand, it's an ad-supported page that's usable and that's fine.
donatj 8y ago
Additionally it’s a top ten list where all ten are on the same page, rather than ten pages to make you see more ads.
tech2 8y ago
You mean something like this: https://i.imgur.com/EoNd3ev.gifv https://i.imgur.com/EoNd3ev.gifv I hate the ones that have permanent non-scrolling header/footer (title and social media buttons generally) taking up a significant fraction of my phone's screen.
- puranjay 8y ago
  Ha! Saw that on Reddit yesterday. Immediately thought of it.
- Memosyne 8y ago
  Why do some designers think this is optimal?
  - tech2 8y ago
    They might not. The product-owners however (in consultation with marketing etc.) combined with word from on-high.
  - fermienrico 8y ago
    I really think that most designers have poor understanding of the confluence of creativity + functionalism + user needs. For every great designer, there are many who do not understand this balance. Combine that with trying to be trendy, aesthetic, flashy in addition to business/marketing objectives (ads, tracking, GDPR); you end up with a design enchilada as exemplified by the GP's link. Does anyone remember Go's rebranding? https://blog.golang.org/go-brand https://blog.golang.org/go-brand Compare that with boring but highly functional Rust Lang's home page and their branding: https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/ https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/ Or even better, check MPFR's page: https://www.mpfr.org/ https://www.mpfr.org/ No bullshit, just content. I might be a minority, but to me aesthetics are not as important as the rest of the public values. Aesthetic aspects of design should follow and not lead in Design. Most people write this off as "non-designey" opinion who doesn't understand design which is not true. I think the Swiss in 1960's nailed aesthetics that don't get in the way, especially in layout (Muller-Brockmann) and typography (Frutiger). These days, in design colleges we have this insane push for retro aesthetics (Brutalism, Vaporware, etc), trying to keep up with current trends as well as increasing pressure for originality. This leads designers to create substandard work in favor of originality. As Paul Rand said, "Don't try to be original. Just try to be good." - This sadly does not work when you're wired to do something different for your senior project as a designer. Designers graduate and create noise thereafter. Furthermore, some of the burden of bad design should also be carried by the expectations from clients. It is not just about designers. Edit: I just realized, I apologize how off-topic this discussion is to the original post.
    - vram22 8y ago
      Can't upvote your comment enough.
- dylan604 8y ago
  Is that a real site, or attempt at a parody? I'd believe either answer.
  - PhasmaFelis 8y ago
    It's a parody. UX Live is a web design conference.
- fitzroy 8y ago
  That is painfully accurate. For anyone that hasn't heard of it, I find the Kill Sticky Headers bookmarklet helpful. https://alisdair.mcdiarmid.org/kill-sticky-headers/ https://alisdair.mcdiarmid.org/kill-sticky-headers/
retSava 8y ago
I remember when I was about to show off "THE INTERNET" to my mom when I was a kid. Thinking, what can I show, I wanted to show that you can find anything there! So I just searched for the first thing that sprung to mind and went there. A page dedicated to the sounds guinea pigs do. Very impressive demo, I would say.
- 13of40 8y ago
  Nowadays a google query for "sounds guinea pigs do" gets 8.6 million hits, and they seem decently on target all the way through page 3.

cstuder 8y ago

Your adblocker probably deceived you: There's both Google Analytics and Google Ads on that page.

baud147258 8y ago
The ads are not pop-up and they do not interupt the content, since they are only on the side. And they are not visible for most of the page. Edit: I don't disagree with your point, but it's not as bad as say, most news articles. Also I didn't check to see if there was other trackers, in addition to GA. As it stand, it's an ad-supported page that's usable and that's fine.

donatj 8y ago

Additionally it’s a top ten list where all ten are on the same page, rather than ten pages to make you see more ads.

tech2 8y ago

You mean something like this: https://i.imgur.com/EoNd3ev.gifv https://i.imgur.com/EoNd3ev.gifv I hate the ones that have permanent non-scrolling header/footer (title and social media buttons generally) taking up a significant fraction of my phone's screen.

puranjay 8y ago
Ha! Saw that on Reddit yesterday. Immediately thought of it.
Memosyne 8y ago
Why do some designers think this is optimal?
- tech2 8y ago
  They might not. The product-owners however (in consultation with marketing etc.) combined with word from on-high.
- fermienrico 8y ago
  I really think that most designers have poor understanding of the confluence of creativity + functionalism + user needs. For every great designer, there are many who do not understand this balance. Combine that with trying to be trendy, aesthetic, flashy in addition to business/marketing objectives (ads, tracking, GDPR); you end up with a design enchilada as exemplified by the GP's link. Does anyone remember Go's rebranding? https://blog.golang.org/go-brand https://blog.golang.org/go-brand Compare that with boring but highly functional Rust Lang's home page and their branding: https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/ https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/ Or even better, check MPFR's page: https://www.mpfr.org/ https://www.mpfr.org/ No bullshit, just content. I might be a minority, but to me aesthetics are not as important as the rest of the public values. Aesthetic aspects of design should follow and not lead in Design. Most people write this off as "non-designey" opinion who doesn't understand design which is not true. I think the Swiss in 1960's nailed aesthetics that don't get in the way, especially in layout (Muller-Brockmann) and typography (Frutiger). These days, in design colleges we have this insane push for retro aesthetics (Brutalism, Vaporware, etc), trying to keep up with current trends as well as increasing pressure for originality. This leads designers to create substandard work in favor of originality. As Paul Rand said, "Don't try to be original. Just try to be good." - This sadly does not work when you're wired to do something different for your senior project as a designer. Designers graduate and create noise thereafter. Furthermore, some of the burden of bad design should also be carried by the expectations from clients. It is not just about designers. Edit: I just realized, I apologize how off-topic this discussion is to the original post.
  - vram22 8y ago
    Can't upvote your comment enough.
dylan604 8y ago
Is that a real site, or attempt at a parody? I'd believe either answer.
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  It's a parody. UX Live is a web design conference.
fitzroy 8y ago
That is painfully accurate. For anyone that hasn't heard of it, I find the Kill Sticky Headers bookmarklet helpful. https://alisdair.mcdiarmid.org/kill-sticky-headers/ https://alisdair.mcdiarmid.org/kill-sticky-headers/

retSava 8y ago

I remember when I was about to show off "THE INTERNET" to my mom when I was a kid. Thinking, what can I show, I wanted to show that you can find anything there! So I just searched for the first thing that sprung to mind and went there. A page dedicated to the sounds guinea pigs do. Very impressive demo, I would say.

13of40 8y ago
Nowadays a google query for "sounds guinea pigs do" gets 8.6 million hits, and they seem decently on target all the way through page 3.