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I agree with a lot of this, but I think if we are talking updates as upgrades, the industry and consumers forced their hands with fast update cycles with meanin
by jsgo 8y ago
I agree with a lot of this, but I think if we are talking updates as upgrades, the industry and consumers forced their hands with fast update cycles with meaningful feature adds. Not excusing what is happening here, they allowed it to be released, but I do think they were forced into the current position rather than took it on their own.
- lstodd 8y ago>the industry and consumers forced their hands with fast update cycles with meaningful feature adds. Yeah, sure. To hell with reliability, let's have features instead. Reminds of chinese android forks.
- Damark 8y agoLOL! I deal with two sets of users. Some are users like you who get emotionally upset about bugs. Then I know others, like me, who simply acknowledge a coding error, or a future fix. It makes dealing with QA difficult sometimes. What should be a scientific CS debugging meeting turns into an emotional tear-filled bug crying session. Why get so upset? Seems "out of scope".
- dang 8y agoPersonal swipes will get you banned here. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow the rules from now on, we'd appreciate it.
- GiorgioG 8y agoSomewhere at Microsoft some bean counters decided that formal QA was costing them too much and “agile” was a perfect excuse to scuttle QA (move fast and break things.) It’s bullshit that has been propagated throughout the software industry. “Well, Microsoft doesn’t do it this way anymore so...”. I work for an MS partner and this is exactly what’s happening in-house here. You’re just making your customers the beta testers.
- Damark 8y agoAgile has nothing to do with releasing products early or in testing. It allows the development process to run more smoothly, but it should be completed by the time it is released to the public.
- ledriveby 8y agoStability is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS priority #1 in an operating system!
- Damark 8y agoUnless it is a development phone, then it is fun to play with new, partially supported features. It all depends on the context of your statement.
- Spooky23 8y agoThat’s the Microsoft line, but it’s bullshit. The company squandered like 5 years on the Windows 8 disaster, which was a failure based 100% on Microsoft pushing forward with a bad strategy. There’s still a PC on every desk, and some helpless saps are scrambling to upgrade from Windows 7 in 2018. Nobody, anywhere is or was pining for high tempo Windows changes. What I’m seeing is that more and more institutional customers are looking at mobile, Chrome and other offerings.
- WorldMaker 8y agoThe real disaster was XP. Windows 8 was a relatively straightforward push forward from where Windows 7 was at the time. It just didn't get that chance at a benefit of such doubt because the vast majority of (especially corporate) users weren't even trying to upgrade to Windows 8 from Windows 7, they were still trying to wrap their heads around upgrading out of Windows XP before Microsoft dropped an overly-generous run of decades of security updates.