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Strange, in 2016 the Republicans ran on a platform of full price transparency in healthcare.

maxxxxx 8y ago
I don't recall this at all. The only thing I remember is that they wanted to repeal (and less so, replace) Obamacare. I don't remember anything about price transparency.
- ilove_banh_mi 8y ago
  It was a major element. See point 5: "Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure." https://web.archive.org/web/20161110004206/https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform https://web.archive.org/web/20161110004206/https://www.donal...
  - maxxxxx 8y ago
    Why aren't they doing this now?
    - ilove_banh_mi 8y ago
      Because they didn't and don't have a sufficient majority in the Senate to repeal and replace Obamacare. And my understanding is that they would no longer have sufficient popular support to do it, either.
      - amanaplanacanal 8y ago
        Huh. And they can't pass point 5 without repealing the ACA?
        ilove_banh_mi 8y ago
        This is so incredibly stupid. You and a bunch of down-voters are so ideologically fixated that you can't handle a simple, factual description or chronicle without launching into sophistry. I'm not a politician. I don't work for nor run any part of the legislative branch. I'm not a Republican, I've never even voted for them. I have zero interest in speculating about what one or another party might do in the future. But I do care about facts. Now do your worst with this.
        amanaplanacanal 8y ago
        OK, two points: 1. That point 5 seems to me to be something that in a rational universe, could get enough votes from both sides of the aisle to pass. Of course we live in a universe where neither party wants to give the other party anything they could call "a win". An the Republicans will explicitly not allow anything to come to a vote unless it has the support of the majority of republicans. They could write a bill and bring it to a vote if they wanted to. 2. It appears the real hold up is that they don't want to do anything that would make health care better unless they can first repeal the ACA. You can think about that however you like, I certainly have my opinion.
      - Faark 8y ago
        They didn't find a sufficient majority for any of their plans they voted on that night. Not AHCA. Not BCRA. Not for straight repeal nor some skinny repeal. [0] And that's exactly the problem with politics. They don't vote for improvements, if that makes the more radical changes they want less necessary and thus appear less necessary. Especially under the shitty US election system allowing only two parties. The one who looses in the end is the citizen who just wants better healthcare. [0] this yt channel is where I get my US healthcare news from: https://youtu.be/tMsSF2vDf6k https://youtu.be/tMsSF2vDf6k ps: Its funny the republicans only managed to pass repeal back when they knew obama would veto it.
wonderwonder 8y ago
They have also historically called for a balanced budget and deceit reduction... at least when the other party is in power.
- ilove_banh_mi 8y ago
  As you can very well see, I answered one very specific false claim about price transparency in healthcare. I did not intend to suggest I am interested in otherwise discussing your personal interests in the political deceits and failures of either American party.

I don't recall this at all. The only thing I remember is that they wanted to repeal (and less so, replace) Obamacare. I don't remember anything about price transparency.

ilove_banh_mi 8y ago
It was a major element. See point 5: "Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure." https://web.archive.org/web/20161110004206/https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform https://web.archive.org/web/20161110004206/https://www.donal...
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  Why aren't they doing this now?
  - ilove_banh_mi 8y ago
    Because they didn't and don't have a sufficient majority in the Senate to repeal and replace Obamacare. And my understanding is that they would no longer have sufficient popular support to do it, either.
    - amanaplanacanal 8y ago
      Huh. And they can't pass point 5 without repealing the ACA?
      - ilove_banh_mi 8y ago
        This is so incredibly stupid. You and a bunch of down-voters are so ideologically fixated that you can't handle a simple, factual description or chronicle without launching into sophistry. I'm not a politician. I don't work for nor run any part of the legislative branch. I'm not a Republican, I've never even voted for them. I have zero interest in speculating about what one or another party might do in the future. But I do care about facts. Now do your worst with this.
        amanaplanacanal 8y ago
        OK, two points: 1. That point 5 seems to me to be something that in a rational universe, could get enough votes from both sides of the aisle to pass. Of course we live in a universe where neither party wants to give the other party anything they could call "a win". An the Republicans will explicitly not allow anything to come to a vote unless it has the support of the majority of republicans. They could write a bill and bring it to a vote if they wanted to. 2. It appears the real hold up is that they don't want to do anything that would make health care better unless they can first repeal the ACA. You can think about that however you like, I certainly have my opinion.
    - Faark 8y ago
      They didn't find a sufficient majority for any of their plans they voted on that night. Not AHCA. Not BCRA. Not for straight repeal nor some skinny repeal. [0] And that's exactly the problem with politics. They don't vote for improvements, if that makes the more radical changes they want less necessary and thus appear less necessary. Especially under the shitty US election system allowing only two parties. The one who looses in the end is the citizen who just wants better healthcare. [0] this yt channel is where I get my US healthcare news from: https://youtu.be/tMsSF2vDf6k https://youtu.be/tMsSF2vDf6k ps: Its funny the republicans only managed to pass repeal back when they knew obama would veto it.

wonderwonder 8y ago

They have also historically called for a balanced budget and deceit reduction... at least when the other party is in power.

ilove_banh_mi 8y ago
As you can very well see, I answered one very specific false claim about price transparency in healthcare. I did not intend to suggest I am interested in otherwise discussing your personal interests in the political deceits and failures of either American party.