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> Of course, he is related to Dodi Fayed (the dude killed with Diana), and his uncle is Adnan Khashoggi, the billionaire arms dealer. The entire family was very

> Of course, he is related to Dodi Fayed (the dude killed with Diana), and his uncle is Adnan Khashoggi, the billionaire arms dealer. The entire family was very well connected in the West, especially the elite (British monarchy, Washington DC, etc). I don't see how it's relevant to his murder, other than to try to smear the victim. That Princess Diana was murdered is an unsubstantiated rumor. > But beyond that, he was also a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a diametrically opposing philosophy to Al Saud's Salafism (but still islamist and regressive, in my opinion. Bin Laden was a member). Now I'm not sure if these are more smears or not. Is there a basis for them?

skeptic_69 8y ago
there is a basis to at least some of these claims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Khashoggi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Khashoggi
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- vowelless 8y ago
  “There is a basis” Of course there is. I have no idea why there is such a viceral reaction to a nuanced viewpoint of why a guy got dismembered. It’s not a simple “he was a cool WaPo journalist who criticized the Saudi family “ It reminds me of how so many smart people supported the Iraq war in 2003, including American media like NYT. I implore people to not do that again.
  - skeptic_69 8y ago
    There is a serious and well documented basis in neutral american and european media-going back decades. It reminds me of how so many smart people make decisions based on an anecdotal basis, including American media like NYT. I implore people to not do that again. side note: your background is wild. you have been around the block a time or two..I think you have some good stories to tell.
vowelless 8y ago
> Now I'm not sure if these are more smears or not. Is there a basis for them? Do you know much about the Ikhwan Muslimeen? If not, then you are missing a huge part of MENA politics over the last 90 years, and the more recent Saudi vs. rest of MENA spats (ex: Qatar). Might be worth reading up on them. Start from end of Ottoman Empire and don't skip over Sayyid Qutb.

skeptic_69 8y ago

there is a basis to at least some of these claims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Khashoggi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Khashoggi

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vowelless 8y ago
“There is a basis” Of course there is. I have no idea why there is such a viceral reaction to a nuanced viewpoint of why a guy got dismembered. It’s not a simple “he was a cool WaPo journalist who criticized the Saudi family “ It reminds me of how so many smart people supported the Iraq war in 2003, including American media like NYT. I implore people to not do that again.
- skeptic_69 8y ago
  There is a serious and well documented basis in neutral american and european media-going back decades. It reminds me of how so many smart people make decisions based on an anecdotal basis, including American media like NYT. I implore people to not do that again. side note: your background is wild. you have been around the block a time or two..I think you have some good stories to tell.

vowelless 8y ago

> Now I'm not sure if these are more smears or not. Is there a basis for them? Do you know much about the Ikhwan Muslimeen? If not, then you are missing a huge part of MENA politics over the last 90 years, and the more recent Saudi vs. rest of MENA spats (ex: Qatar). Might be worth reading up on them. Start from end of Ottoman Empire and don't skip over Sayyid Qutb.