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McKinsey's official response here: https://twitter.com/McKinsey/status/1053838356826808320 https://twitter.com/McKinsey/status/1053838356826808320 If it was an

by ENOTTY 8y ago

McKinsey's official response here: https://twitter.com/McKinsey/status/1053838356826808320 https://twitter.com/McKinsey/status/1053838356826808320 If it was an internal report, how did it get into the hands of the government?

throwaway2048 8y ago
seems like a suspiciously specific denial to me.
village-idiot 8y ago
Two real possibilities. First, a lot of companies in the US loved to deal with Saudi money, and are now shocked to discover that the Saudi’s are up to some shady shit. Second, there are rumors that the Saudi government has either planted or groomed moles at tech companies for the express purpose of identifying dissidents. There was some talk about there being one on Twitter with access to user IP addresses, but I’m not sure if that’s been substantiated.
- lbriner 8y ago
  I'm not sure anyone could be shocked at what happens in Saudi Arabia, their dealings have been well known for ages by Amnesty International, US Dept of State etc. I think a more plausible explanation is your first point that they love Saudi money and they can ignore the human rights abuses as long as they stay suitably low-key and rumour-based. As soon as they go onto the worldwide news, these same people suddenly feign ignorance and walk slowly backwards from their deals.
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  - village-idiot 8y ago
    That was sarcasm, hence the italics. Plenty of companies act surprised as a means of extracting themselves from suddenly unpopular deals while saving face.
holstvoogd 8y ago
They kept it with the bone saws.. /s Technically, it is of course possible that they where infiltrated/hacked whatever. But it might as well be that they do do business with the saudi's and gave them access to this 'internal report'. I mean, why else would you have a report on the top three critics of a regime?
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barry-cotter 8y ago
A classic of the genre "we certainly did not produce this document in the anticipation that we would get caught. We absolutely abhor the negative consequences for ourselves and would not have accepted this engagement if we knew it would come back to bite us" https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/1053989200201220096?s=21 https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/105398920020122009...
gaius 8y ago
Tweets are cheap - let's see them sack the Saudi government as a client before anyone takes their apology seriously. And that still begs the question of why an report on dissidents was compiled for their own internal use in the first place...

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throwaway2048 8y ago

seems like a suspiciously specific denial to me.

village-idiot 8y ago

Two real possibilities. First, a lot of companies in the US loved to deal with Saudi money, and are now shocked to discover that the Saudi’s are up to some shady shit. Second, there are rumors that the Saudi government has either planted or groomed moles at tech companies for the express purpose of identifying dissidents. There was some talk about there being one on Twitter with access to user IP addresses, but I’m not sure if that’s been substantiated.

lbriner 8y ago
I'm not sure anyone could be shocked at what happens in Saudi Arabia, their dealings have been well known for ages by Amnesty International, US Dept of State etc. I think a more plausible explanation is your first point that they love Saudi money and they can ignore the human rights abuses as long as they stay suitably low-key and rumour-based. As soon as they go onto the worldwide news, these same people suddenly feign ignorance and walk slowly backwards from their deals.
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- village-idiot 8y ago
  That was sarcasm, hence the italics. Plenty of companies act surprised as a means of extracting themselves from suddenly unpopular deals while saving face.

holstvoogd 8y ago

They kept it with the bone saws.. /s Technically, it is of course possible that they where infiltrated/hacked whatever. But it might as well be that they do do business with the saudi's and gave them access to this 'internal report'. I mean, why else would you have a report on the top three critics of a regime?

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barry-cotter 8y ago

A classic of the genre "we certainly did not produce this document in the anticipation that we would get caught. We absolutely abhor the negative consequences for ourselves and would not have accepted this engagement if we knew it would come back to bite us" https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/1053989200201220096?s=21 https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/105398920020122009...

gaius 8y ago

Tweets are cheap - let's see them sack the Saudi government as a client before anyone takes their apology seriously. And that still begs the question of why an report on dissidents was compiled for their own internal use in the first place...