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Money is not, even now, the only factor that matters when it comes to power and politics. The Hilary campaign in sum (as far as anyone can tell) outspent the T

by throwaway2048 8y ago

Money is not, even now, the only factor that matters when it comes to power and politics. The Hilary campaign in sum (as far as anyone can tell) outspent the Trump campaign by 2:1.

loblollyboy 8y ago
He said global relations, but it’s kind of a no brainer point - ‘power and money’ is pretty all encompassing
unstuckdev 8y ago
She also got millions more votes. That election turned on a few tens of thousands of votes in a couple of states due to the way the electoral college works. Money paid for the targeted ads responsible and built the company that made it possible.
- xienze 8y ago
  If only she knew that running up the score in California wasn’t as important as securing wins in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan...
  - tzs 8y ago
    She did almost no campaigning in California after the primaries. Mostly all she did in California after that was fund raising.
coldtea 8y ago
That's because politics also has this antiquated thing called "voters", and they won't always vote like those with most money want them to (e.g. Trump, Brexit, etc). It's also because those with money have been getting what they wanted for so long, that they didn't expect much resistance this time either. But they still have the power, they just can't go and openly revert the voting results. They took their lessons for next time though, and they wont let anything like this happen again...
- pjc50 8y ago
  Voter roll purges are under way in certain states to consolidate Republican control, especially Georgia.
cabalamat 8y ago
> Money is not, even now, the only factor that matters when it comes to power and politics. This is true. While military strength, money, control of resources, etc, have always been important (and probably always will be), public opinion has been a factor in international relations since the time of the french revolution.
danso 8y ago
It isn’t, but it’s still a huge factor in American politics that so much of the eligible voting population stays home. Successful campaigns are the ones that optimize the “get out the vote” efforts, and that requires money for ads and field offices.
sctb 8y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18267674 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18267674.

Money is not, even now, the only factor that matters when it comes to power and politics. The Hilary campaign in sum (as far as anyone can tell) outspent the Trump campaign by 2:1.

loblollyboy 8y ago

He said global relations, but it’s kind of a no brainer point - ‘power and money’ is pretty all encompassing

unstuckdev 8y ago

She also got millions more votes. That election turned on a few tens of thousands of votes in a couple of states due to the way the electoral college works. Money paid for the targeted ads responsible and built the company that made it possible.

xienze 8y ago
If only she knew that running up the score in California wasn’t as important as securing wins in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan...
- tzs 8y ago
  She did almost no campaigning in California after the primaries. Mostly all she did in California after that was fund raising.

coldtea 8y ago

That's because politics also has this antiquated thing called "voters", and they won't always vote like those with most money want them to (e.g. Trump, Brexit, etc). It's also because those with money have been getting what they wanted for so long, that they didn't expect much resistance this time either. But they still have the power, they just can't go and openly revert the voting results. They took their lessons for next time though, and they wont let anything like this happen again...

pjc50 8y ago
Voter roll purges are under way in certain states to consolidate Republican control, especially Georgia.

cabalamat 8y ago

> Money is not, even now, the only factor that matters when it comes to power and politics. This is true. While military strength, money, control of resources, etc, have always been important (and probably always will be), public opinion has been a factor in international relations since the time of the french revolution.

danso 8y ago

It isn’t, but it’s still a huge factor in American politics that so much of the eligible voting population stays home. Successful campaigns are the ones that optimize the “get out the vote” efforts, and that requires money for ads and field offices.

sctb 8y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18267674 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18267674.