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I have a Nexus One and an iPhone 3G in the drawer, both ready to be adopted

7 points by davewiner 16y ago

pohl 16y ago
Lately it has been hard to tell when someone is using the term 'brick' in the strict sense, or to mean that they've just lost interest in resolving the problem. Not much here to help the reader decide which sense the word was used in.
- jrockway 16y ago
  It's Dave Winer, so it's pretty easy to guess which he means.
  - nuclear_eclipse 16y ago
    And for those of us not familiar with Dave Winer?
    - jrockway 16y ago
      He likes to whine.
pavel_lishin 16y ago
Wait, a software glitch is equivalent to "outlawing" something? I'm not sure I understand the terminology.
rbranson 16y ago
What's the point of this post? What did anyone learn from this? This is a pointless rant that belongs on someone's Facebook wall, not on a blog with thousands of readers.
- jrockway 16y ago
  People actually read his blog intentionally?
- zdw 16y ago
  From my reading of his posts, Dave has great domain specific knowledge, but outside of that he tends give up quickly or jump to conclusions (see article as example) He is one of the Ur-bloggers, having started Userland and been doing a blog-like site for 10+ years, and is often very insightful, but his blog seems to be written for an audience of 1, himself. If you go into it with other expectations, you'll probably be disappointed. In short, don't rag on him - do go for perspective. (this is probably my most meta HN post yet)
  - davewiner 16y ago
    I've been blogging at scripting.com for 13 years. And your explanation of blogging is pretty correct. It's surprising after all this time that people still don't get it, that a blog post is just one person's experience. They're so accustomed to being told that there is a kind of writing that's anything more. That somehow the big publications tap into a well of collective wisdom that's greater than one person's experience. Anyway, thanks for explaining. Some of the people here need to have it laid out for them. :-) BTW, on the third try, the iPhone did fix itself. My friend still went home with the Nexus One, happily.
- davewiner 16y ago
  The point of the post is to relate one person's experience.
Xuzz 16y ago
From someone who knows what is going on during the iPhone restore sequence, and from what he said, the iPhone NOT bricked. If it is offering to restore, the bootloaders are running (it's actually impossible to brick an iPhone via software), so he just needs to mess around a little bit and restore to the latest software. I'm sure that with a little Googling of the error message, he could get it working again in an hour or two. I still don't understand how this has to do with Apple as a whole. Hell, in that case, I'd take it in to the Apple Store, even if it's out of warranty: they'd probably replace it anyway. All I see here is that the author is lazy, and doesn't want to bother doing anything to make their paid-for device work... even if that just involves going to the store and having them fix it.

7 points by davewiner 16y ago

pohl 16y ago

Lately it has been hard to tell when someone is using the term 'brick' in the strict sense, or to mean that they've just lost interest in resolving the problem. Not much here to help the reader decide which sense the word was used in.

jrockway 16y ago
It's Dave Winer, so it's pretty easy to guess which he means.
- nuclear_eclipse 16y ago
  And for those of us not familiar with Dave Winer?
  - jrockway 16y ago
    He likes to whine.

pavel_lishin 16y ago

Wait, a software glitch is equivalent to "outlawing" something? I'm not sure I understand the terminology.

rbranson 16y ago

What's the point of this post? What did anyone learn from this? This is a pointless rant that belongs on someone's Facebook wall, not on a blog with thousands of readers.

jrockway 16y ago
People actually read his blog intentionally?
zdw 16y ago
From my reading of his posts, Dave has great domain specific knowledge, but outside of that he tends give up quickly or jump to conclusions (see article as example) He is one of the Ur-bloggers, having started Userland and been doing a blog-like site for 10+ years, and is often very insightful, but his blog seems to be written for an audience of 1, himself. If you go into it with other expectations, you'll probably be disappointed. In short, don't rag on him - do go for perspective. (this is probably my most meta HN post yet)
- davewiner 16y ago
  I've been blogging at scripting.com for 13 years. And your explanation of blogging is pretty correct. It's surprising after all this time that people still don't get it, that a blog post is just one person's experience. They're so accustomed to being told that there is a kind of writing that's anything more. That somehow the big publications tap into a well of collective wisdom that's greater than one person's experience. Anyway, thanks for explaining. Some of the people here need to have it laid out for them. :-) BTW, on the third try, the iPhone did fix itself. My friend still went home with the Nexus One, happily.
davewiner 16y ago
The point of the post is to relate one person's experience.

Xuzz 16y ago

From someone who knows what is going on during the iPhone restore sequence, and from what he said, the iPhone NOT bricked. If it is offering to restore, the bootloaders are running (it's actually impossible to brick an iPhone via software), so he just needs to mess around a little bit and restore to the latest software. I'm sure that with a little Googling of the error message, he could get it working again in an hour or two. I still don't understand how this has to do with Apple as a whole. Hell, in that case, I'd take it in to the Apple Store, even if it's out of warranty: they'd probably replace it anyway. All I see here is that the author is lazy, and doesn't want to bother doing anything to make their paid-for device work... even if that just involves going to the store and having them fix it.