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> ... which for Fukashima was apparently 150,000 To put it in perspective, the prediction for the number of climate refugees vary, but papers seem to put the n

> ... which for Fukashima was apparently 150,000 To put it in perspective, the prediction for the number of climate refugees vary, but papers seem to put the number somewhere between 150 and 300 million by 2050.[1] That's about one Fukushima every five to eleven days, starting from now and continuing until 2050. Think about it. [1] https://orbi.uliege.be//bitstream/2268/136972/1/11-1188-mr7-why-the-numbers-dont-add-up-estimates-of-people-displaced.pdf https://orbi.uliege.be//bitstream/2268/136972/1/11-1188-mr7-... (Table 1, page 5) - Disclaimer: this was the first link from Googling "climate refugee prediction".

chmod775 8y ago
To put that into perspective, about 120,000 people are displaced every day in the middle east because of a mess ultimately created in the pursuit of oil interests. That's one Fukoshima every day. Apparently the US felt that hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, and democratic governments overthrown was an acceptable price for slightly cheaper oil. I fully expect that calculation to come out the same when climate refugees are considered. The lengths we'll go to for cheap energy and car culture, right?
- jplayer01 8y ago
  Not sure why you were downvoted. You're entirely right. Oil is incredibly destructive for the environment and society, yet it's accepted because that's just how things are.
  - phkahler 8y ago
    Our entire civilization runs on energy, mostly from coal and oil. Until recently it was not feasible to use alternatives. Change takes time.
    - Piskvorrr 8y ago
      Time which we might not have, especially given the political pushback.
    - wiml 8y ago
      "Recently" was — conservatively — thirty or forty years ago.
- pogden 8y ago
  Do you have a source for that number? UNHCR lists 44,400 displacements per day worldwide in 2017 [0]. [0] http://www.unhcr.org/globaltrends2017/ http://www.unhcr.org/globaltrends2017/
  - chmod775 8y ago
    I just took the first number I found in the excerpt of an article in my Google results. Since I can't find it anymore I'll say that my number is very likely wrong and your's is right. Sadly can't edit my post anymore though.

chmod775 8y ago

To put that into perspective, about 120,000 people are displaced every day in the middle east because of a mess ultimately created in the pursuit of oil interests. That's one Fukoshima every day. Apparently the US felt that hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, and democratic governments overthrown was an acceptable price for slightly cheaper oil. I fully expect that calculation to come out the same when climate refugees are considered. The lengths we'll go to for cheap energy and car culture, right?

jplayer01 8y ago
Not sure why you were downvoted. You're entirely right. Oil is incredibly destructive for the environment and society, yet it's accepted because that's just how things are.
- phkahler 8y ago
  Our entire civilization runs on energy, mostly from coal and oil. Until recently it was not feasible to use alternatives. Change takes time.
  - Piskvorrr 8y ago
    Time which we might not have, especially given the political pushback.
  - wiml 8y ago
    "Recently" was — conservatively — thirty or forty years ago.
pogden 8y ago
Do you have a source for that number? UNHCR lists 44,400 displacements per day worldwide in 2017 [0]. [0] http://www.unhcr.org/globaltrends2017/ http://www.unhcr.org/globaltrends2017/
- chmod775 8y ago
  I just took the first number I found in the excerpt of an article in my Google results. Since I can't find it anymore I'll say that my number is very likely wrong and your's is right. Sadly can't edit my post anymore though.