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No, but over the past 50 years, we’ve had two severe nuclear incidents resulting in any kind of long-term environmental damage (Fukuhima and Chernobyl), and Fuk

No, but over the past 50 years, we’ve had two severe nuclear incidents resulting in any kind of long-term environmental damage (Fukuhima and Chernobyl), and Fukushima will be remediated within a decade. In the mean time, we’ve had Exxon Valdez, Deepwater Horizon, Andover, San Carlos, CA, plus oil trains burning down entire towns, coal mine explosions, two Gulf Wars, and sea level rise due to global warming. Pick your poison.

Pfhreak 8y ago
I find this to be an interesting comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents The list of accidents is so large that the US has to create separate wikipedia pages for every 25 year span.
- blattimwind 8y ago
  > The list of accidents is so large that the US has to create separate wikipedia pages for every 25 year span. Actually it has a separate list page for each year since 2000. And the 25-year lists before ("List of pipeline accidents in the United States (1975–1999)" etc.) are huge lists.
acidburnNSA 8y ago
Right. And the evacuation now in most of fukushima is based on old and likely very conservative dose-health relations (linear, no threshold). There is a lot of talk these days of getting a better understanding of the real risk of low dose radiation. Some people evacuated Fukushima and went to places with higher natural background and ironically got more dose
glenneroo 8y ago
I think you are only considering the damage done on land, but you severely underestimate the damage done (being done) to the ocean, which is difficult to assess though all studies I have seen so far tend to agree that anything living there is having a rough time.
mypalmike 8y ago
> Fukushima will be remediated within a decade. Do you want to put some money Fukushima being fully decomissioned by 2028?
adrianN 8y ago
We also have burning coal mines that slowly eat whole landscapes like in Centralia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire

Pfhreak 8y ago

I find this to be an interesting comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents The list of accidents is so large that the US has to create separate wikipedia pages for every 25 year span.

blattimwind 8y ago
> The list of accidents is so large that the US has to create separate wikipedia pages for every 25 year span. Actually it has a separate list page for each year since 2000. And the 25-year lists before ("List of pipeline accidents in the United States (1975–1999)" etc.) are huge lists.

acidburnNSA 8y ago

Right. And the evacuation now in most of fukushima is based on old and likely very conservative dose-health relations (linear, no threshold). There is a lot of talk these days of getting a better understanding of the real risk of low dose radiation. Some people evacuated Fukushima and went to places with higher natural background and ironically got more dose

glenneroo 8y ago

I think you are only considering the damage done on land, but you severely underestimate the damage done (being done) to the ocean, which is difficult to assess though all studies I have seen so far tend to agree that anything living there is having a rough time.

mypalmike 8y ago

> Fukushima will be remediated within a decade. Do you want to put some money Fukushima being fully decomissioned by 2028?

adrianN 8y ago

We also have burning coal mines that slowly eat whole landscapes like in Centralia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire