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Really, what a joke this part was: >This is the insular world in which tens of thousands of Americans who use conservative political apps are experiencing the
by anisoz 8y ago
Really, what a joke this part was:
>This is the insular world in which tens of thousands of Americans who use conservative political apps are experiencing the midterm election season.
Because being on Facebook on Twitter is not experiencing an insular world, right? I mean, conservatives would not have to create their own apps to communicate if they would be left to express their views on the mainstream ones.
- krapp 8y ago>I mean, conservatives would not have to create their own apps to communicate if they would be left to express their views on the mainstream ones. But I see conservative views on social media all the time, they're doing just fine on mainstream platforms. The vast leftist purge of conservatives from social media is mostly propaganda and myth.
- NickNameNick 8y agoI think there must be some powerful mental dissonance for conservatives in a world where by some important measures, you are winning, and still find that "Reality has a well known liberal bias"
- funkythings 8y agoAmerican culture is shaped largely by costal cities, especially towards the outwards world. Don't you think its fair to say those regions have a liberal bias?
- didibus 8y agoSocieties are more complex then that I believe. At some point, people must wonder why are we working together? We must share somewhat similar desires in what we want as an outcome. That means, we share a similar vision for the environment we want to live in. Is this vision drastically diferent between the American left and the right? I'm not sure. I still feel people are looking for as much personal freedom as possible while maintaining high personal safety. In that regard, if its true this is still the shared outcome by all Americans, then the disagreement is in how to best achieve it. In that case, there will be someone who'se idea is actually better. If coastal cities are the major influences on this end goal, could it not be that their method works better? I'm not wanting to downplay the right. There are most likely specific issues which could be better solved with right leaning policies, this is all really hard to predict. The point I want to make is that not everything can be bias. The center isn't necessarily the unbiased position. Its possible the right or the left is actually the better solution on one issue or another. If say the left was overall a set of better solutions, it would be unfair to say that people who believe in those solutions to be biased, they might be unbiased, yet, the unbiased truth is that the set on the left is simply a better way to achieve the desired outcome. This would similarly apply to the right.
- funkythings 8y agoI disagree with "I still feel people are looking for as much personal freedom as possible while maintaining high personal safety". If we're talking about leftists, not (classical) liberals, it is abundantly clear that they don't want personal freedom, but government control
- krapp 8y agoThe premise that America is locked in a cultural war between leftist "city dwellers" and "heartland" conservatives is also mostly populist propaganda. The truth is most Americans are not entirely one or the other ideologically. But we have a two party first-past-the-post system which encourages ideological polarity and tribalism, so broad and simplistic (and mostly incorrect) narratives about the makeup of American culture and politics win out in the media and get reintegrated into popular culture through osmosis.
- funkythings 8y agoWhat do you expect from a newspaper that has people on their editorial board like Sara Jeong, who openly tells us all on twitter how she likes to see old white people suffer?
- anisoz 8y agoVery dark times are coming to the US. It's not going to end well. I hope we can avoid it in Europe, we still have time left. I think people here will see what's happening in the US as a warning sign not to let things go too far.
- anon4738383 8y agoChris Hedges, the reporter who was booed, drowned out and pushed off stage for opposing the Iraq invasion, his latest book America: The Farewell Tour is a must read. America is headed to bread and circuses, violent cognitive dissonance, troglodyte populist fascists and the rich aristocracy strip-mining the foundations of civilization one rust-belt city system and bridge at a time until cities collapse.
- WalterGR 8y agoSorry, what’s happening in the US? I live there but I must be missing what’s going on.