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No, because wealth is not fairly distributed. The biggest predictor of wealth is being born rich. Looking at only the best case is not sufficient to call a crit

No, because wealth is not fairly distributed. The biggest predictor of wealth is being born rich. Looking at only the best case is not sufficient to call a criterion "fair."

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Godel_unicode 8y ago
The operative word being "more". If you agree with gp that people are going to be judgy, which I do, then what we're looking for is least-bad.
- learc83 8y ago
  >then what we're looking for is least-bad. Wealth certainly isn't the least-bad. Also I haven't seen any evidence that encouraging people to judge others by one metric discourages them from judging people by other metrics.
  - simonh 8y ago
    This is an important point. The implicit assumption of the OP, “if we’re going to judge in one thing” is bogus. Why do we have to judge on only one thing? Why can’t we judge different traits and characteristics based on different metrics? What does material wealth tell us about someone? What is it about them we are judging?
- philipov 8y ago
  You are arguing that the frying pan is not as bad as the fire. If your morality is so impoverished that this is the least-bad you can think of, you should take a break from judgement.
tuesdayrain 8y ago
Is anything truly "fair" then? Even people's decisions and actions are affected by their genetics and upbringing, none of which are really fair. By this logic it's unacceptable to judge people on anything.
- mcny 8y ago
  > By this logic it's unacceptable to judge people on anything. Why do we need to judge people at all? If it is simply to feel superior, you can just make stuff up. "Look at that person with/without an iPhone while I don't have/have one."
  - philipov 8y ago
    IPhone is just a proxy for wealth. I suggest instead, "Look at that pathetic guy trying to justify evil actions by making wealth at any cost seem like a virtue."
- philipov 8y ago
  If you are desperate for something to judge people by, maybe start with their compassion towards those less fortunate than themselves.
badestrand 8y ago
Also comparing wealth to judge people doesn't make sense because many don't even strive for it. At least in Germany most people just want a middle class lifestyle (i.e. normal job and house) but have absolutely no ambitions for more.

No, because wealth is not fairly distributed. The biggest predictor of wealth is being born rich. Looking at only the best case is not sufficient to call a criterion "fair."

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Godel_unicode 8y ago

The operative word being "more". If you agree with gp that people are going to be judgy, which I do, then what we're looking for is least-bad.

learc83 8y ago
>then what we're looking for is least-bad. Wealth certainly isn't the least-bad. Also I haven't seen any evidence that encouraging people to judge others by one metric discourages them from judging people by other metrics.
- simonh 8y ago
  This is an important point. The implicit assumption of the OP, “if we’re going to judge in one thing” is bogus. Why do we have to judge on only one thing? Why can’t we judge different traits and characteristics based on different metrics? What does material wealth tell us about someone? What is it about them we are judging?
philipov 8y ago
You are arguing that the frying pan is not as bad as the fire. If your morality is so impoverished that this is the least-bad you can think of, you should take a break from judgement.

tuesdayrain 8y ago

Is anything truly "fair" then? Even people's decisions and actions are affected by their genetics and upbringing, none of which are really fair. By this logic it's unacceptable to judge people on anything.

mcny 8y ago
> By this logic it's unacceptable to judge people on anything. Why do we need to judge people at all? If it is simply to feel superior, you can just make stuff up. "Look at that person with/without an iPhone while I don't have/have one."
- philipov 8y ago
  IPhone is just a proxy for wealth. I suggest instead, "Look at that pathetic guy trying to justify evil actions by making wealth at any cost seem like a virtue."
philipov 8y ago
If you are desperate for something to judge people by, maybe start with their compassion towards those less fortunate than themselves.

badestrand 8y ago

Also comparing wealth to judge people doesn't make sense because many don't even strive for it. At least in Germany most people just want a middle class lifestyle (i.e. normal job and house) but have absolutely no ambitions for more.