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I completely agree with Stripe here. The homeless problem will not be solved by increasing taxes. The problem is whether the money is being used correctly. I se

I completely agree with Stripe here. The homeless problem will not be solved by increasing taxes. The problem is whether the money is being used correctly. I see huge issues with that. The department of homelessness currently has an annual budget of $250Million[1] for providing shelter to homeless. I wonder if govt. is spending $250 Million every year on providing them shelter why are they still living in streets? Where is all that money going? [1] - https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/29-million-increase-for-San-Francisco-12902707.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/29-million-incre...

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LegendZ3 8y ago
Break down of money spent on Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing http://hsh.sfgov.org/overview/budget/ http://hsh.sfgov.org/overview/budget/
erentz 8y ago
So google tells me there’s around 7,000 homeless in SF. Let’s up that to 10,000. That’s $25,000 per homeless person per year. Am I missing something or is something very seriously wrong here?
- lacker 8y ago
  At a single moment in time there are about 7500 homeless people in SF, but about 20,000 are homeless at some point during the last year.
- tomjakubowski 8y ago
  For what it's worth, that's way less than (less than half) the amortized yearly cost of a California prison inmate: about $70,000. https://lao.ca.gov/policyareas/cj/6_cj_inmatecost https://lao.ca.gov/policyareas/cj/6_cj_inmatecost
  - tomjen3 8y ago
    That is the average cost? How much would that be if we looked only at the min-sec cost? If it is anything like the institutional system, the people who need dedicated watchers 24/7 are so, so much more expensive that person like my family member, who needs only occasional help managing his normal life and doesn't need anybody to guard him.
- orangecat 8y ago
  While I'm certain SF could be doing a much better job with their existing budget, that's not a very meaningful statistic. You'd need to know how many more people would be homeless in the counterfactual scenario where they weren't spending that money.
- abalone 8y ago
  Yes, you’re missing something: Much of the funding goes into prevention. SF only directly spends about $3K per homeless person. There are a lot more people staying housed because of those funds.

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LegendZ3 8y ago

Break down of money spent on Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing http://hsh.sfgov.org/overview/budget/ http://hsh.sfgov.org/overview/budget/

erentz 8y ago

So google tells me there’s around 7,000 homeless in SF. Let’s up that to 10,000. That’s $25,000 per homeless person per year. Am I missing something or is something very seriously wrong here?

lacker 8y ago
At a single moment in time there are about 7500 homeless people in SF, but about 20,000 are homeless at some point during the last year.
tomjakubowski 8y ago
For what it's worth, that's way less than (less than half) the amortized yearly cost of a California prison inmate: about $70,000. https://lao.ca.gov/policyareas/cj/6_cj_inmatecost https://lao.ca.gov/policyareas/cj/6_cj_inmatecost
- tomjen3 8y ago
  That is the average cost? How much would that be if we looked only at the min-sec cost? If it is anything like the institutional system, the people who need dedicated watchers 24/7 are so, so much more expensive that person like my family member, who needs only occasional help managing his normal life and doesn't need anybody to guard him.
orangecat 8y ago
While I'm certain SF could be doing a much better job with their existing budget, that's not a very meaningful statistic. You'd need to know how many more people would be homeless in the counterfactual scenario where they weren't spending that money.
abalone 8y ago
Yes, you’re missing something: Much of the funding goes into prevention. SF only directly spends about $3K per homeless person. There are a lot more people staying housed because of those funds.