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What about the argument that some places are more expensive than others, and sometimes, for a few years, it makes more sense to live in a cheap place while you
by LiterallyDoge 8y ago
What about the argument that some places are more expensive than others, and sometimes, for a few years, it makes more sense to live in a cheap place while you set up your finances, and then make decisions about where to live for the long term?
- oh_sigh 8y agoThe problem is that you are treating homeless people like rational actors.
- LiterallyDoge 8y agoFair - I think the solution then also would not be more money directly to them, but a better support system for the mentally challenged. If they can't make rational decisions as you say, then (assuming we can agree that compassion is good) we should provide better systems to help.
- pcwalton 8y agoDoreen Michele's comment answers this quite well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17915009 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17915009
- joey-bob 8y agoThings sound very difficult out west. Rent can be had for under $500 in many southeastern cities. That being said, most of the newish industrial jobs are out in rural areas. Although Doreen Michele seems to be referencing online jobs, so I may be missing the context.
- cco 8y agoWe need to first make sure we're all talking about the same problem. When people complain about the homeless of San Francisco it is not the people Doreen is taking about. The people in question are severely mentally ill, addicts, likely both. They are the people that shoot heroin at the bus stop you are trying to wait at, they're the guy with no shoes, covered in his own waste screaming at passers-by. These are the people that are causing the frustration, not people who could make it if they could level up their skillset and get a better job. We really need to agree on the issue at hand because so often I see people talk straight past each other. The man covered in his waste needs help, desperately, he will not be someone who with a little help starts paying rent and holding down a job. He needs the community to pay for housing, medical treatment, and psychiatric care for a long time, likely forever to some degree. But we can't keep talking about different problems.
- LiterallyDoge 8y agoYeah I'm leaving this alone, looks like a straw man, also I don't think she makes a convincing point.