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I'm amazed at Canonical policy of releasing new versions with these kind of bugs open https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues https:/

I'm amazed at Canonical policy of releasing new versions with these kind of bugs open https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Known_... Anyone care to recommend a distro which has better policy on quality? (for desktop usage)

Insanity 8y ago
Depends what you want. If you like Debian based distros, maybe just use Debian?
quantummkv 8y ago
Ubuntu LTS? Fedora?
sanqui 8y ago
The planned release of Fedora 29 was just yesterday pushed back by a week due to blocker bugs. Personally, this sort of quality control is what makes me really appreciate Fedora. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-29-Final-Delayed https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-2...
- s_kilk 8y ago
  Sample-size of one here, but I switched to Fedora a few years back after growing tired of Ubuntu's bugs. I haven't had any real issues since, it's just solid.
  - tssva 8y ago
    Here is a counter sample of one. I switched to Fedora from Ubuntu. Eventually switched back to Ubuntu once I got tired of my system breaking in some new way each time Fedora released a new version. Ubuntu has been rock solid for me.
  - bpye 8y ago
    I'll make it a sample-size of two, Fedora has been rock solid on my desktop and my Chromebook-turned-laptop. Relatively recent software but no noticable bugs. I am using Nouveau and Intel graphics drivers so I'm not sure what it's like if you want Nvidia's proprietary stuff or AMDs, but for me it's great.
  - josteink 8y ago
    Sample-size of one here, but I switched to Fedora a few years back after growing tired of Ubuntu lagging with Wayland. I haven't had any real issues since, but I really wanted ZFS so I’m back on Ubuntu.
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brendaningram 8y ago
Debian Stretch (see my separate post here for more info)
viraptor 8y ago
Alternative view: all distros have issues. It's better to go with the ones which clearly document the big issues in release notes. And possibly skip the initial big releases - use LTS after it gets some testing in public.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
Heh, I've been running Cosmic for a month or so now and come across the VPN bug frequently. I find disconnecting and reconnecting to the wi-fi network resolves it. Other than that it's been very solid for me on my Dell XPS 15 9560.
- giggsey 8y ago
  18.04 has the same VPN bug.
nanna 8y ago
As quantummkv says, you could go for Ubuntu Long Term Support, or give 18.10 a go after a while when these bugs have been ironed out. No one's forcing an immediate adoption of the Short Term Support version, and it functions as a testing ground for the next LTS anyway.
- tumetab1 8y ago
  My concern and question should be more clear. I'm already bummed that Ubuntu out-of-box apps Firefox/Thunderbird have already in the LTS dumb bugs. * Thunderbird can't display subjects with emojis correctly (a distro issue). * Firefox (actually a Gnome issue) trying to login on lastpass/onepass is broken. In both cases the issues aren't new and haven't enough priority to be fixed which I think it's weird.
simion314 8y ago
Install a LTS versions 6 months after it is released, the .1 release
jl6 8y ago
Canonical need to be clearer that the LTS releases are the real releases, and the interim 6-monthly releases are more like developer previews.
- tumetab1 8y ago
  Humm, didn't think of them that way.
marenkay 8y ago
The harsh reality is that every distribution has these last-minute creepers. More user engagement would help here, much more than crying for the next distro. Use whatever you like since each has their own policies for a reason that makes sense IMHO. If you do not care for professional/commercial use cases, install Arch Linux. It almost never breaks (zero times for me in six years of use) and always has the latest and gives you stuff mostly unmodified (as in just patching needed to make it run somehow).
- scns 8y ago
  I would recommend Manjaro. Arch based, updates come after two weeks of testing by the developers. It is even possible to install on f2fs. Never broke for me.
  - marenkay 8y ago
    Is that realistic to test thousands of packages in two weeks? Automated build tests are everywhere anyway and more than that is not done for Manjaro as well. The real testers here are probably Arch users having access to these updates weeks earlier and reporting bugs and fixing them.
lllr_finger 8y ago
I railed aganinst Red Hat and Fedora for years, then gave in to peer pressure eventually - it's been an extremely pleasant and productive experience.
- tumetab1 8y ago
  Considering the workstation, server and atomic types in the fedora page I'm not sure about using it for desktop/home usage.

Insanity 8y ago

Depends what you want. If you like Debian based distros, maybe just use Debian?

quantummkv 8y ago

Ubuntu LTS? Fedora?

sanqui 8y ago

The planned release of Fedora 29 was just yesterday pushed back by a week due to blocker bugs. Personally, this sort of quality control is what makes me really appreciate Fedora. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-29-Final-Delayed https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-2...

s_kilk 8y ago
Sample-size of one here, but I switched to Fedora a few years back after growing tired of Ubuntu's bugs. I haven't had any real issues since, it's just solid.
- tssva 8y ago
  Here is a counter sample of one. I switched to Fedora from Ubuntu. Eventually switched back to Ubuntu once I got tired of my system breaking in some new way each time Fedora released a new version. Ubuntu has been rock solid for me.
- bpye 8y ago
  I'll make it a sample-size of two, Fedora has been rock solid on my desktop and my Chromebook-turned-laptop. Relatively recent software but no noticable bugs. I am using Nouveau and Intel graphics drivers so I'm not sure what it's like if you want Nvidia's proprietary stuff or AMDs, but for me it's great.
- josteink 8y ago
  Sample-size of one here, but I switched to Fedora a few years back after growing tired of Ubuntu lagging with Wayland. I haven't had any real issues since, but I really wanted ZFS so I’m back on Ubuntu.

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brendaningram 8y ago

Debian Stretch (see my separate post here for more info)

viraptor 8y ago

Alternative view: all distros have issues. It's better to go with the ones which clearly document the big issues in release notes. And possibly skip the initial big releases - use LTS after it gets some testing in public.

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

Heh, I've been running Cosmic for a month or so now and come across the VPN bug frequently. I find disconnecting and reconnecting to the wi-fi network resolves it. Other than that it's been very solid for me on my Dell XPS 15 9560.

giggsey 8y ago
18.04 has the same VPN bug.

nanna 8y ago

As quantummkv says, you could go for Ubuntu Long Term Support, or give 18.10 a go after a while when these bugs have been ironed out. No one's forcing an immediate adoption of the Short Term Support version, and it functions as a testing ground for the next LTS anyway.

tumetab1 8y ago
My concern and question should be more clear. I'm already bummed that Ubuntu out-of-box apps Firefox/Thunderbird have already in the LTS dumb bugs. * Thunderbird can't display subjects with emojis correctly (a distro issue). * Firefox (actually a Gnome issue) trying to login on lastpass/onepass is broken. In both cases the issues aren't new and haven't enough priority to be fixed which I think it's weird.

simion314 8y ago

Install a LTS versions 6 months after it is released, the .1 release

jl6 8y ago

Canonical need to be clearer that the LTS releases are the real releases, and the interim 6-monthly releases are more like developer previews.

tumetab1 8y ago
Humm, didn't think of them that way.

marenkay 8y ago

The harsh reality is that every distribution has these last-minute creepers. More user engagement would help here, much more than crying for the next distro. Use whatever you like since each has their own policies for a reason that makes sense IMHO. If you do not care for professional/commercial use cases, install Arch Linux. It almost never breaks (zero times for me in six years of use) and always has the latest and gives you stuff mostly unmodified (as in just patching needed to make it run somehow).

scns 8y ago
I would recommend Manjaro. Arch based, updates come after two weeks of testing by the developers. It is even possible to install on f2fs. Never broke for me.
- marenkay 8y ago
  Is that realistic to test thousands of packages in two weeks? Automated build tests are everywhere anyway and more than that is not done for Manjaro as well. The real testers here are probably Arch users having access to these updates weeks earlier and reporting bugs and fixing them.

lllr_finger 8y ago

I railed aganinst Red Hat and Fedora for years, then gave in to peer pressure eventually - it's been an extremely pleasant and productive experience.

tumetab1 8y ago
Considering the workstation, server and atomic types in the fedora page I'm not sure about using it for desktop/home usage.