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Because Mozilla is totally not a corporation. Brave makes usage of BAT and their ads optional and disabled by default.

by akerro 8y ago

onyva 8y ago
We've discussed this Mozilla is a "corporation" many times before, here and elsewhere. https://blog.mozilla.org/press/2005/08/mozilla-foundation-forms-new-organization-to-further-the-creation-of-free-open-source-internet-software-including-the-award-winning-mozilla-firefox-browser/ https://blog.mozilla.org/press/2005/08/mozilla-foundation-fo...
- akerro 8y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation
  - ngokevin 8y ago
    I agree Mozilla is a corporation, despite its marketing and brand efforts, everything else is very corporate. It started out as a foundation with corporation-as-necessity, but no longer the case. They are able to distance themselves from ad money through Google, but it's the same. If they could make more profit and growth, they would choose to do so. A small example has twice been ads in the browser (now using local targeting), and if it was 100% a non-profit foundation goodie-goodie, would probably go with a default search engine like Duck Duck Go, but survival as a corporation prohibits otherwise. And I think that's totally okay, but I don't think we can pretend they aren't a corporation.
    - Yoric 8y ago
      Well, even foundations need to survive. Going Duck Duck Go by default would mean firing pretty much all the developers and letting Google win. Do you think it would be a good strategy?
      - ngokevin 8y ago
        No. I mentioned "I think that's totally okay" and natural. My main point was only that Mozilla Corporation behaves as a corporation, internally and externally, not a non-profit foundation. They do have an external-facing mission / angle, but so does every other company.
jhabdas 8y ago
What makes you believe the guise of privacy as a right is anything more than a trick to gain network effect? If the rewards system doesn't make it out of beta, or worse, does and leads to adtech having an easier time profiling you, what we may end up with is more centralization around data collection—it just won't be as obvious. And with the move to Chromium It's time for me to bail on Brave. Because if Muon doesn't compete with Chromium we've simply inched closer to a closed loop system. Orfox here I come!

Because Mozilla is totally not a corporation. Brave makes usage of BAT and their ads optional and disabled by default.

by akerro 8y ago

Because Mozilla is totally not a corporation. Brave makes usage of BAT and their ads optional and disabled by default.

We've discussed this Mozilla is a "corporation" many times before, here and elsewhere. https://blog.mozilla.org/press/2005/08/mozilla-foundation-forms-new-organization-to-further-the-creation-of-free-open-source-internet-software-including-the-award-winning-mozilla-firefox-browser/ https://blog.mozilla.org/press/2005/08/mozilla-foundation-fo...

akerro 8y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation
- ngokevin 8y ago
  I agree Mozilla is a corporation, despite its marketing and brand efforts, everything else is very corporate. It started out as a foundation with corporation-as-necessity, but no longer the case. They are able to distance themselves from ad money through Google, but it's the same. If they could make more profit and growth, they would choose to do so. A small example has twice been ads in the browser (now using local targeting), and if it was 100% a non-profit foundation goodie-goodie, would probably go with a default search engine like Duck Duck Go, but survival as a corporation prohibits otherwise. And I think that's totally okay, but I don't think we can pretend they aren't a corporation.
  - Yoric 8y ago
    Well, even foundations need to survive. Going Duck Duck Go by default would mean firing pretty much all the developers and letting Google win. Do you think it would be a good strategy?
    - ngokevin 8y ago
      No. I mentioned "I think that's totally okay" and natural. My main point was only that Mozilla Corporation behaves as a corporation, internally and externally, not a non-profit foundation. They do have an external-facing mission / angle, but so does every other company.

jhabdas 8y ago

What makes you believe the guise of privacy as a right is anything more than a trick to gain network effect? If the rewards system doesn't make it out of beta, or worse, does and leads to adtech having an easier time profiling you, what we may end up with is more centralization around data collection—it just won't be as obvious. And with the move to Chromium It's time for me to bail on Brave. Because if Muon doesn't compete with Chromium we've simply inched closer to a closed loop system. Orfox here I come!