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Yeah, me too. But Google has more in common with Intel now than when it had 23 employees.

by sjf 8y ago

mehrdada 8y ago
True. I have a new catchphrase that I use: Google does everything at scale. They waste talent at scale.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  And it’s such an utter shame with their resources; they could be the next Bell Labs or Xerox PARC.
  - sanxiyn 8y ago
    That's like saying Microsoft could be the next Bell Labs. In reality, Microsoft is the next Bell, and Microsoft Research IS the next Bell Labs.
    - deleted 8y ago
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  - nl 8y ago
    They've already done so much more than either of those. Bell Labs delivered a fair bit of tech, but Xerox PARC did great demos. Xerox PARC == Magic Leap or something like that.
    - bsaul 8y ago
      Don’t know why you were downvoted. Xerox parc did in fact release nothing to the general public iirc. But they got great tech which got ripped off, unlike magic leap maybe ?
      - pvarangot 8y ago
        The Learning Group at PARK did release Smalltalk, but guess that's not "for the general public". I was under the idea they never really wanted to release a product for mass consumption.
      - a7776f88862 8y ago
        > Xerox parc did in fact release nothing to the general public iirc. Right, just because you haven't bothered to look it up, it doesn't exist. Here are just the Xerox PARC work that was commercialized by Xerox I can think of off the top of my head: Ethernet, XNS, Interpress, the Star and D-series workstations, Mesa, Smalltalk, Cedar.
        scroot 8y ago
        Don't forget the laser printer, postscript, etc
  - nostrademons 8y ago
    They probably are. There's a ton of interesting research going on at Google that is not being capitalized on economically. They just need a few ambitious visitors or ex-employees to "liberate" it, the way Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did to Xerox. In some cases (eg. TensorFlow, Chromium, protobufs, or LevelDB) it's already been open-sourced. Note that neither AT&T nor Xerox were the prime beneficiaries of technologies developed at Bell Labs or PARC, respectively.

Yeah, me too. But Google has more in common with Intel now than when it had 23 employees.

by sjf 8y ago

Yeah, me too. But Google has more in common with Intel now than when it had 23 employees.

mehrdada 8y ago

True. I have a new catchphrase that I use: Google does everything at scale. They waste talent at scale.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
And it’s such an utter shame with their resources; they could be the next Bell Labs or Xerox PARC.
- sanxiyn 8y ago
  That's like saying Microsoft could be the next Bell Labs. In reality, Microsoft is the next Bell, and Microsoft Research IS the next Bell Labs.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
- nl 8y ago
  They've already done so much more than either of those. Bell Labs delivered a fair bit of tech, but Xerox PARC did great demos. Xerox PARC == Magic Leap or something like that.
  - bsaul 8y ago
    Don’t know why you were downvoted. Xerox parc did in fact release nothing to the general public iirc. But they got great tech which got ripped off, unlike magic leap maybe ?
    - pvarangot 8y ago
      The Learning Group at PARK did release Smalltalk, but guess that's not "for the general public". I was under the idea they never really wanted to release a product for mass consumption.
    - a7776f88862 8y ago
      > Xerox parc did in fact release nothing to the general public iirc. Right, just because you haven't bothered to look it up, it doesn't exist. Here are just the Xerox PARC work that was commercialized by Xerox I can think of off the top of my head: Ethernet, XNS, Interpress, the Star and D-series workstations, Mesa, Smalltalk, Cedar.
      - scroot 8y ago
        Don't forget the laser printer, postscript, etc
- nostrademons 8y ago
  They probably are. There's a ton of interesting research going on at Google that is not being capitalized on economically. They just need a few ambitious visitors or ex-employees to "liberate" it, the way Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did to Xerox. In some cases (eg. TensorFlow, Chromium, protobufs, or LevelDB) it's already been open-sourced. Note that neither AT&T nor Xerox were the prime beneficiaries of technologies developed at Bell Labs or PARC, respectively.