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I hope so. My EdgeRouter X is scheduled to come tomorrow. I have a fiber connection box coming in, which outputs RJ45. I am assuming the AT&T router can be repl

I hope so. My EdgeRouter X is scheduled to come tomorrow. I have a fiber connection box coming in, which outputs RJ45. I am assuming the AT&T router can be replaced as it is just doing DHCP to get my public IP.

justinclift 8y ago
It probably also does authentication to the upstream network, so it knows who's connecting and can provide usage metrics. The auth protocols are generally standardised though, so you shouldn't have too much trouble. :)
- nodesocket 8y ago
  Would the auth information showup in the AT&T modem admin page? They doesn't use PPPOE, just standard DHCP. Just hoping they don't filter by Mac address upstream.
  - jlgaddis 8y ago
    On (V)DSL, they use 802.1X, not sure about their fiber service. That's what forces me to use their "home gateway" (since it auths using the certificate in the device).
    - justinclift 8y ago
      As a curiosity thing, have you ever cracked open the device to see what's inside? Maybe JTAG ports on the main board, or even having the cert stored (say) on microSD card? :D
  - justinclift 8y ago
    Interesting. If they do use the device MAC address, that could turn out to be really easy. :) Mac address spoofing is super easy (basic admin task almost) on most *nix's, though (from hazy memory) it does depend on the network card capabilities and driver. Looking at the general info page for the EdgeRouter X, it seems to run something called "EdgeOS": https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/ https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/ That has a user guide available: https://dl.ubnt.com/guides/edgemax/EdgeOS_UG.pdf https://dl.ubnt.com/guides/edgemax/EdgeOS_UG.pdf Page 4 of the user guide says: CLI Advanced users can make configuration changes using Linux commands. If EdgeOS really is Linux based, you might be in luck. :)
bobwaycott 8y ago
I'm really interested in knowing if you get this to work with AT&T without their gateway being in front of your router. I've been working on a project and have so far found AT&T gateways to be necessary for a working connection, due to certificates on the device (as mentioned by another comment in this thread). Care to share if you got it working?

justinclift 8y ago

It probably also does authentication to the upstream network, so it knows who's connecting and can provide usage metrics. The auth protocols are generally standardised though, so you shouldn't have too much trouble. :)

nodesocket 8y ago
Would the auth information showup in the AT&T modem admin page? They doesn't use PPPOE, just standard DHCP. Just hoping they don't filter by Mac address upstream.
- jlgaddis 8y ago
  On (V)DSL, they use 802.1X, not sure about their fiber service. That's what forces me to use their "home gateway" (since it auths using the certificate in the device).
  - justinclift 8y ago
    As a curiosity thing, have you ever cracked open the device to see what's inside? Maybe JTAG ports on the main board, or even having the cert stored (say) on microSD card? :D
- justinclift 8y ago
  Interesting. If they do use the device MAC address, that could turn out to be really easy. :) Mac address spoofing is super easy (basic admin task almost) on most *nix's, though (from hazy memory) it does depend on the network card capabilities and driver. Looking at the general info page for the EdgeRouter X, it seems to run something called "EdgeOS": https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/ https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/ That has a user guide available: https://dl.ubnt.com/guides/edgemax/EdgeOS_UG.pdf https://dl.ubnt.com/guides/edgemax/EdgeOS_UG.pdf Page 4 of the user guide says: CLI Advanced users can make configuration changes using Linux commands. If EdgeOS really is Linux based, you might be in luck. :)

bobwaycott 8y ago

I'm really interested in knowing if you get this to work with AT&T without their gateway being in front of your router. I've been working on a project and have so far found AT&T gateways to be necessary for a working connection, due to certificates on the device (as mentioned by another comment in this thread). Care to share if you got it working?