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Agreed. I hate saying this but it seems like Usenet's downfall may have been the rise of anonymity? Or at least it played a large part in it. Of course using yo

by scoggs 8y ago

Agreed. I hate saying this but it seems like Usenet's downfall may have been the rise of anonymity? Or at least it played a large part in it. Of course using your true identity to participate in online social platforms isn't required for them to be good and on the other side of the coin even real live people on social media sites act terrible towards others and "ruin it for everyone", or any other type of buzzword / rationale used to describe the phenomenon.

gweinberg 8y ago
I don't think we need to be able to link posts to meatspace identities, but I think we do need to have some kind of persistent identities, and there need to be some kind of cost to create new ones.
xte 8y ago
IMVHO simply because of social degradation, in the past even outlaws normally behave far better in society, we (as society) simply became from adults to child, regardless of our age and that's the problem. Someone think that's being child it's easy, pleasant, so a nice selling point, also children are easy to manage so good for managers/politician etc, but there is a problem, children needs parents to live, they can't stand on their foots in the wild. On a more limited point of view usenet work well enough for any tech savvy user and commerce see no opportunity in developing it, preferring instead push less free and more profitable web tech solutions, so on one side peoples get advertisements of "new colorful, 'featureful' platforms" and on the other nntp client like desktop MUA does not improve in any way. Take as an example actual MUA for the masses like Thunderbird, they look '90-style, with all limitation of ancient clients, compare to webmail's evolution... Of course we have notmuch, mutt&forks, pine&forks, but they are not for the masses, so vast majority goes for actual pre-made webmail food...

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Agreed. I hate saying this but it seems like Usenet's downfall may have been the rise of anonymity? Or at least it played a large part in it. Of course using yo

by scoggs 8y ago

gweinberg 8y ago
I don't think we need to be able to link posts to meatspace identities, but I think we do need to have some kind of persistent identities, and there need to be some kind of cost to create new ones.
xte 8y ago
IMVHO simply because of social degradation, in the past even outlaws normally behave far better in society, we (as society) simply became from adults to child, regardless of our age and that's the problem. Someone think that's being child it's easy, pleasant, so a nice selling point, also children are easy to manage so good for managers/politician etc, but there is a problem, children needs parents to live, they can't stand on their foots in the wild. On a more limited point of view usenet work well enough for any tech savvy user and commerce see no opportunity in developing it, preferring instead push less free and more profitable web tech solutions, so on one side peoples get advertisements of "new colorful, 'featureful' platforms" and on the other nntp client like desktop MUA does not improve in any way. Take as an example actual MUA for the masses like Thunderbird, they look '90-style, with all limitation of ancient clients, compare to webmail's evolution... Of course we have notmuch, mutt&forks, pine&forks, but they are not for the masses, so vast majority goes for actual pre-made webmail food...