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I think you just demonstrated their point. Motorcycles work quite differently than cars in many, unintuitive to car-driver, ways. Until I began riding, I thoug

I think you just demonstrated their point. Motorcycles work quite differently than cars in many, unintuitive to car-driver, ways. Until I began riding, I thought I understood, but now my POV is forever changed in a great many traffic situations.

adrianmonk 8y ago
OK, but a great many traffic situations are not relevant here. Only one is. This proposes to replace/augment traffic lights with radio transceivers and in-vehicle displays. What's different about how motorcyclists interact with traffic lights? Isn't it just stop on red and go on green like for any other vehicle?
- mtreis86 8y ago
  Most of the traffic lights that have vehicle detection mechanisms don't pick up motorcycles so you end up treating red lights more like stop signs if there is no one around.
  - adrianmonk 8y ago
    OK, I've dealt with that on a bicycle. And even a few times in a car when the sensor was flaky. This system uses a transceiver in the vehicle that broadcasts its location. So in the case where a motorcycle has the transceiver, it is superior because you no longer are dealing with a sensor that performs poorly on your vehicle type. In the case where a motorcycle doesn't have the transceiver, you'd still see a red light just like they do now. And you'd still have to visually check that nobody is coming before proceeding, so that seems identical.
  - bagacrap 8y ago
    This is not true, at least not in any place I've lived in the US. On a (motor)bike you do have to be careful with your wheel placement: align one wheel with black lines on the ground, which are sometimes circles and sometimes straight line segments, and stay there. Even with really skinny bicycle rims the sensor will note your presence. The only difference to cars is that automobile rims are much wider and twice as numerous, so it's harder to miss the sensor.

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I think you just demonstrated their point. Motorcycles work quite differently than cars in many, unintuitive to car-driver, ways. Until I began riding, I thoug

by justtopost 8y ago

adrianmonk 8y ago
OK, but a great many traffic situations are not relevant here. Only one is. This proposes to replace/augment traffic lights with radio transceivers and in-vehicle displays. What's different about how motorcyclists interact with traffic lights? Isn't it just stop on red and go on green like for any other vehicle?
- mtreis86 8y ago
  Most of the traffic lights that have vehicle detection mechanisms don't pick up motorcycles so you end up treating red lights more like stop signs if there is no one around.
  - adrianmonk 8y ago
    OK, I've dealt with that on a bicycle. And even a few times in a car when the sensor was flaky. This system uses a transceiver in the vehicle that broadcasts its location. So in the case where a motorcycle has the transceiver, it is superior because you no longer are dealing with a sensor that performs poorly on your vehicle type. In the case where a motorcycle doesn't have the transceiver, you'd still see a red light just like they do now. And you'd still have to visually check that nobody is coming before proceeding, so that seems identical.
  - bagacrap 8y ago
    This is not true, at least not in any place I've lived in the US. On a (motor)bike you do have to be careful with your wheel placement: align one wheel with black lines on the ground, which are sometimes circles and sometimes straight line segments, and stay there. Even with really skinny bicycle rims the sensor will note your presence. The only difference to cars is that automobile rims are much wider and twice as numerous, so it's harder to miss the sensor.