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Hmm... elitekeyboards.com only seems to have the HHKB Professional 2... the one I have is a "HHKB Lite 2", which (in a strange inversion of the usual hierarchy)

Hmm... elitekeyboards.com only seems to have the HHKB Professional 2... the one I have is a "HHKB Lite 2", which (in a strange inversion of the usual hierarchy) includes an extra Fn key on the left and an inverted-T arrow-key cluster. I realise using arrow keys is heresy to a certain subset of the programming community, but I've been using them for decades and it's hard to give them up.

jrockway 16y ago
I realise using arrow keys is heresy to a certain subset of the programming community, but I've been using them for decades and it's hard to give them up. Then buy a RealForce or the Japanese HHKB Professional instead: http://www.g-ray.co.uk/pictures/Realforce87U2b.jpg http://www.g-ray.co.uk/pictures/Realforce87U2b.jpg http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/lineup/pdkb420b.html http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/lineup/pdkb420b.html FWIW, I use the arrows once in a while (not everything supports Emacs-style keybindings, after all, especially on Windows), and I like the HHKB's approach. Less hand movement than normal arrow keys. in a strange inversion of the usual hierarchy, includes an extra Fn key on the left and an inverted-T arrow-key cluster "Lite" refers to the price, not the number of keys. Topre keyswitches are not cheap. A rubber membrane is.
dxq 16y ago
The arrow keys are accessible with the function key. It seems awkward at first, but after a day of use it becomes very natural. If it's what you really want, the HHKB Lite 2 is actually sold in the US and is quite a bit cheaper (though the switches aren't as nice).
- Keyframe 16y ago
  Can you reprogram where arrow keys are? I have my arrow keys in emacs as Alt and then IJKL (like WASD), so it would be nice if Fn IJKL worked the same in OS.
  - jrockway 16y ago
    No, you can't reprogram them.
wwortiz 16y ago
The lite can be found here http://pfuca-store.stores.yahoo.net/haphackeyser.html http://pfuca-store.stores.yahoo.net/haphackeyser.html Though they didn't take away their days unavailable from august. I believe this yahoo store is also found from the officials manufacturers website for buying the keyboards.

jrockway 16y ago

I realise using arrow keys is heresy to a certain subset of the programming community, but I've been using them for decades and it's hard to give them up. Then buy a RealForce or the Japanese HHKB Professional instead: http://www.g-ray.co.uk/pictures/Realforce87U2b.jpg http://www.g-ray.co.uk/pictures/Realforce87U2b.jpg http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/lineup/pdkb420b.html http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/lineup/pdkb420b.html FWIW, I use the arrows once in a while (not everything supports Emacs-style keybindings, after all, especially on Windows), and I like the HHKB's approach. Less hand movement than normal arrow keys. in a strange inversion of the usual hierarchy, includes an extra Fn key on the left and an inverted-T arrow-key cluster "Lite" refers to the price, not the number of keys. Topre keyswitches are not cheap. A rubber membrane is.

dxq 16y ago

The arrow keys are accessible with the function key. It seems awkward at first, but after a day of use it becomes very natural. If it's what you really want, the HHKB Lite 2 is actually sold in the US and is quite a bit cheaper (though the switches aren't as nice).

Keyframe 16y ago
Can you reprogram where arrow keys are? I have my arrow keys in emacs as Alt and then IJKL (like WASD), so it would be nice if Fn IJKL worked the same in OS.
- jrockway 16y ago
  No, you can't reprogram them.

wwortiz 16y ago

The lite can be found here http://pfuca-store.stores.yahoo.net/haphackeyser.html http://pfuca-store.stores.yahoo.net/haphackeyser.html Though they didn't take away their days unavailable from august. I believe this yahoo store is also found from the officials manufacturers website for buying the keyboards.