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I often hear the argument that Apple respects user privacy because their business model is selling hardware, not user data. However, they are making billions of
by msvan 8y ago
I often hear the argument that Apple respects user privacy because their business model is selling hardware, not user data. However, they are making billions of dollars by letting Google sell data for them.
- Aloha 8y agoThe user in the end chooses to use google however.
- mtgx 8y agoDefault presets are not the user "choosing" something. It's why companies always choose the opt-out method vs opt-in.
- swombat 8y agoI've tried a variety of search engines and I always end up going back to Google. They're just better overall for me. That's been my experience and based on that I can see it being justifiable for Apple (who is after all a very opinionated company) taking a similar stand: we don't like defaulting to Google but they're just the best game in town so if we want the iPhone to be the best phone out of the box it needs to default to Google.
- ikeboy 8y agoI'm sure the $9 billion helps
- ummonk 8y agoYeah that's the issue. Even if they weren't getting paid, they'd still have to choose Google for a reasonable user experience. And I don't see that changing. It's one thing for Apple to get into Maps, and it's another for them to get into search...
- Someguywhatever 8y agoBecause google is essentially a monopoly. Almost nobody uses anything else. Because of this monopoly and all the advertising revenue, Google effectively has "infinite money" and uses it to metastasize into other areas such as maps, self driving cars etc. Nobody else can do this because nobody else has "infinite money", Google is losing money hand over fist in self driving cars, I seriously doubt that maps comes anywhere close to breaking even. It's all funded by the bottomless pool of advertising money.
- ambicapter 8y ago> Nobody else can do this because nobody else has "infinite money" Apple has a higher market cap than Alphabet, Inc.
- Someguywhatever 8y agoThat's true, but I don't think Apple has "Fuck you" money. Google definitely has that type of cash. It has near infinite recurring revenue. They don't even need to do anything with their current technology to maintain this, just simply don't make any mistakes and their magical search goose will keep laying those golden eggs.
- mythz 8y agoApple is the most valuable company in the world who makes the most profit in the world, in the last 2017 FY they made 48B in profit compared to Google 12.6B Apple makes so much money that they’ve given back more than 200B in buy backs and billions more in dividends, Google has yet to return anything.
- Someguywhatever 8y agoApple is only a couple of Bad iPhone designs away from being irrelevant. Everything you are saying is from a shareholder perspective, Apple does not have a monopoly like Google does. So what if they have a lot of money? Wait for a downturn and all the Apple investors who've been getting dividends DON'T get a dividend for once, it wont be pretty. Google on the other hand doesn't have as much money and isn't as "valuable" on paper only. The reality is far different. Google has infinite money but not as much money in the bank right now. Apple makes iPhone and is irrelevant outside of making iPhones. If some other companies phone becomes the "iPhone" then Apple is dead.
- y04nn 8y agoThey may be the "best" (for now) but that don't contradict the fact that I want to be able to have the choice of my default search engine when I start a new device. Many people may not event know they can change that setting if it is not proposed the first time.
- macintux 8y agoThe challenge there is that new device setup is already burdened with more essential tasks. It's gotten much better with the recent ability for one iOS device to prime the pump for a new one, but I have a hard time picturing Apple treating this setting as vital to the device setup.
- Aloha 8y agoChoosing to not change a setting is still a choice.
- ionised 8y agoNot if you're ignorant of the choice.