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There are, for the self-driving car program in question which developed over that 7 years of progres? Can you name a similar incident in the past year of a Waym
by gwern 8y ago
There are, for the self-driving car program in question which developed over that 7 years of progres? Can you name a similar incident in the past year of a Waymo car boxing in another car on a highway and sending people to the hospital?
- gsich 8y agoUber sent a woman to the grave. Don't know if that counts for you.
- gwern 8y agoNo, it doesn't, because their program sucked from the start, worse than most, and even if they were the best self-driving car program, Uber's has only been around for a few years and so is not a valid counterexample to the claim '7 years won't make a difference'. It sure does seem to've for Waymo.
- gsich 8y agoThe same person (Levandowski) worked at Uber. So all his knowledge went to Uber too, obviously. They didn't start at point zero.
- eiieirurjdndjd 8y agoAh yeah just so you know there is a lot more to building a self driving car system than the general knowledge held in the head of the lead engineer. It is unlikely that he would have known even a tenth of the systems involved in the waymo program at a level of detail required to quickly replicate them.
- r00fus 8y agoAll I get from this is that Levandowski and his actions are dangerous for humans.
- gwern 8y agoYou mean the person who was fired almost as soon as he got there and which the trial showed had near-zero contribution?
- my_first_acct 8y agoIt took 7 years for this particular incident to come to light. Until I learned about it, I thought that Google/Waymo was pretty good about disclosures, but now I have to wonder what present-day incidents we will only be finding out about 7 years from now.