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There are supplements/nootropics that make such a thing possible.

opportune 8y ago
lol, the entire nootropic industry is just one step above pseudoscience. Nobody I know who has started taking nootropics has seen any measurable benefit from them aside from side effects, assuming we are excluding normal stimulants from "nootropics" and mostly referring to *racetams. Additionally, most studies on nootropics that show promising results focus on things like NGF rather than actual changes in intelligence, and only test one potential nootropic at a time, while most people who take them do complex stacks / take much higher doses, which makes me question their safety regarding long-term use Given that, to my knowledge, there isn't any evidence that increasing neurotropic growth factor will cause significant neuron growth/regeneration in regular adults, it seems the only nootropics that actually work are stimulants and semi-stimulants, which at the end of the day just make you more alert and focused It's one of those "life hacks" that gives such marginal, if any, benefits that it's not even a productive use of your time to think about them/order them/etc. when you could do more productive life hacks with your time instead
- baccheion 8y ago
  SEMAX + selank + alpha-GPC 5 days/week alternating every 4 weeks with p21/cerebrolysin. Also add a multivitamin, D + K, and chelated/TRAACS magnesium supplement. Nootropics, if they have an effect, tend to improve aspects of cognition. For example, focus, creativity, mental energy, verbal fluidity, ability to multitask (ie, listen to music while reading), etc. Not all benefits are perceivable without monitoring via sites like Cambridge Sciences.
  - opportune 8y ago
    I'm interested in large double blind studies regarding increases in IQ or alertness, as well as studies into the long term effects of taking these mostly untested drugs/supplements. A bunch of guys on the internet taking Lumosity tests doesn't replace a study
    - baccheion 8y ago
      You can look them up on Pub Med (eg, "semax site:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed"). Sites like Cambridge Sciences are mentioned as another way to see if nootropics are having an effect. Even if studies claim benefits, some may experience nothing. That is, many things health-related tend to vary on a per-person basis.
SwellJoe 8y ago
There are supplements/nootropics that people claim to make all sorts of things possible. The research is often lightly corroborated. But, there has been discussion here about the subject a few times over the years. Valproate, a mood stabilizer, is one such drug, but the study size was small. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24831-learning-drugs-reawaken-grown-up-brains-inner-child/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24831-learning-drugs-... I'd be curious what supplements you have in mind, since you included it in your comment.

lol, the entire nootropic industry is just one step above pseudoscience. Nobody I know who has started taking nootropics has seen any measurable benefit from them aside from side effects, assuming we are excluding normal stimulants from "nootropics" and mostly referring to *racetams. Additionally, most studies on nootropics that show promising results focus on things like NGF rather than actual changes in intelligence, and only test one potential nootropic at a time, while most people who take them do complex stacks / take much higher doses, which makes me question their safety regarding long-term use Given that, to my knowledge, there isn't any evidence that increasing neurotropic growth factor will cause significant neuron growth/regeneration in regular adults, it seems the only nootropics that actually work are stimulants and semi-stimulants, which at the end of the day just make you more alert and focused It's one of those "life hacks" that gives such marginal, if any, benefits that it's not even a productive use of your time to think about them/order them/etc. when you could do more productive life hacks with your time instead

baccheion 8y ago
SEMAX + selank + alpha-GPC 5 days/week alternating every 4 weeks with p21/cerebrolysin. Also add a multivitamin, D + K, and chelated/TRAACS magnesium supplement. Nootropics, if they have an effect, tend to improve aspects of cognition. For example, focus, creativity, mental energy, verbal fluidity, ability to multitask (ie, listen to music while reading), etc. Not all benefits are perceivable without monitoring via sites like Cambridge Sciences.
- opportune 8y ago
  I'm interested in large double blind studies regarding increases in IQ or alertness, as well as studies into the long term effects of taking these mostly untested drugs/supplements. A bunch of guys on the internet taking Lumosity tests doesn't replace a study
  - baccheion 8y ago
    You can look them up on Pub Med (eg, "semax site:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed"). Sites like Cambridge Sciences are mentioned as another way to see if nootropics are having an effect. Even if studies claim benefits, some may experience nothing. That is, many things health-related tend to vary on a per-person basis.

SwellJoe 8y ago

There are supplements/nootropics that people claim to make all sorts of things possible. The research is often lightly corroborated. But, there has been discussion here about the subject a few times over the years. Valproate, a mood stabilizer, is one such drug, but the study size was small. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24831-learning-drugs-reawaken-grown-up-brains-inner-child/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24831-learning-drugs-... I'd be curious what supplements you have in mind, since you included it in your comment.