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>Any entity that provides fairly steady, predictable work and guaranteed pay is doing a good thing for the most part. I'm not really sure about that, any big b

>Any entity that provides fairly steady, predictable work and guaranteed pay is doing a good thing for the most part. I'm not really sure about that, any big busines wouldn't hesitate to fire you and as many people needed to close the numbers or to cut your hours-wages for the same reason let's not talk about benefits, there's not "safe job" anymore.

sonnyblarney 8y ago
" there's not "safe job" anymore." Most jobs are safe actually. First - government, which is a massive employer. Second - healthcare - generally low turnover, and a huge portion of the economy. Energy - parts are up and down, but anything closer to the core is very safe. Core jobs at any classic company. They are generally safe. Large layoffs are not common, and this idea that companies will drop huge numbers of people 'just to save a buck' is simply not true: most layoffs only happen during economic calamity, when the company is starting to face trouble. In decent times, firings is rare. Now factory wok, hourly workers, retail workers - that's a whole other thing. Remember that companies make money by expanding and hiring, not by laying off. CEO's are 100x more likely to want to 'grow' than 'shrink' and there's a lot of political cost with layoffs. Rubin's startup is flailing, that's why he's laying off, that's to be expected.
- krapp 8y ago
  >Now factory work, hourly workers, retail workers - that's a whole other thing. These are most of the jobs, not government, energy, healthcare and whatever "core jobs at any classic company" means. Those are also overlapping sets.
  - sonnyblarney 8y ago
    No, you can see the breakdown here from the BLS [1] Most jobs are relatively safe from calamity. Though there is ugly turnover, the same applies - in retail in particular, companies do not want to layoff - this would be very bad. They want to hire, it's just that the jobs suck. As for manufacturing - that's generally the one where 'laying off' might be good for the company as they would move the jobs overseas. But this idea that companies are always looking to layoff and drop people is not right, it happens in specific places. [1] https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/employment-by-major-industry-sector.htm https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/employment-by-major-industry-...

sonnyblarney 8y ago

" there's not "safe job" anymore." Most jobs are safe actually. First - government, which is a massive employer. Second - healthcare - generally low turnover, and a huge portion of the economy. Energy - parts are up and down, but anything closer to the core is very safe. Core jobs at any classic company. They are generally safe. Large layoffs are not common, and this idea that companies will drop huge numbers of people 'just to save a buck' is simply not true: most layoffs only happen during economic calamity, when the company is starting to face trouble. In decent times, firings is rare. Now factory wok, hourly workers, retail workers - that's a whole other thing. Remember that companies make money by expanding and hiring, not by laying off. CEO's are 100x more likely to want to 'grow' than 'shrink' and there's a lot of political cost with layoffs. Rubin's startup is flailing, that's why he's laying off, that's to be expected.

krapp 8y ago
>Now factory work, hourly workers, retail workers - that's a whole other thing. These are most of the jobs, not government, energy, healthcare and whatever "core jobs at any classic company" means. Those are also overlapping sets.
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  No, you can see the breakdown here from the BLS [1] Most jobs are relatively safe from calamity. Though there is ugly turnover, the same applies - in retail in particular, companies do not want to layoff - this would be very bad. They want to hire, it's just that the jobs suck. As for manufacturing - that's generally the one where 'laying off' might be good for the company as they would move the jobs overseas. But this idea that companies are always looking to layoff and drop people is not right, it happens in specific places. [1] https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/employment-by-major-industry-sector.htm https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/employment-by-major-industry-...