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Eich's donations to causes restricted the freedom of his employees. That's generally considered a "no-no" when it comes to being liked by your employees. Shocki

Eich's donations to causes restricted the freedom of his employees. That's generally considered a "no-no" when it comes to being liked by your employees. Shockingly, they may even protest it.

insvwallhitsyou 8y ago
Actually, I don't think my management's political activities are any of my business, and vice versa. Once upon a time, this was known as being a busybody and intensely frowned upon.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  Even when those political activities are them saying that you are not deserving of the same rights as other people?
  - insvwallhitsyou 8y ago
    If I want to be entitled to my opinion, I have to allow others to have theirs.
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      I find it insane that you believe that whether someone gets basic human rights is something that people should get to have opinions about.
    - insvwallhitsyou 8y ago
      Downvoted and flagged. Apparently, this is now considered a scandalous idea.
      - dang 8y ago
        It's a tedious flamewar. We're trying to keep those off HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - s73v3r_ 8y ago
        When that opinion is that certain people are not deserving of basic human rights, I would hope that it would be considered scandalous.
austincheney 8y ago
Perhaps. The issue here is should somebody be completely destroyed for a difference of opinion? In the Bay Area the answer is a resounding yes. Tolerance is a comforting and popular term in the Bay Area. What people there are actually seeking is the enemy of tolerance: harmony. I really don’t care about people’s silly justifications for not seeing the difference, because either way it’s generally a personal delusion, a self-deception.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  "The issue here is should somebody be completely destroyed for a difference of opinion?" Calling it a "difference of opinion" is really masking the entire thing. He was saying that, not only are LGBT people not deserving of the same rights that he had, but that we should be able to vote on what rights they have. Can you see how dehumanizing that is? And I cannot take your bit about "tolerance" seriously when we're talking about someone who, themselves, was not showing any kind of tolerance.
  - austincheney 8y ago
    Tolerance is appreciation of disagreement, so it really seems that you are misusing that term to qualify something not stated.
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      Again, I find it insane that you are calling someone saying that a group of people are not entitled to basic human rights and dignity a "disagreement". You have disagreements over what pizza toppings to get, not if you are allowed to decide if two people in love are allowed to marry.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > The issue here is should somebody be completely destroyed for a difference of opinion? I've seen Eich doing a lot of things in business (and posting around here) since the dust-up; I don't think he was “completely destroyed”.

Eich's donations to causes restricted the freedom of his employees. That's generally considered a "no-no" when it comes to being liked by your employees. Shockingly, they may even protest it.

insvwallhitsyou 8y ago

Actually, I don't think my management's political activities are any of my business, and vice versa. Once upon a time, this was known as being a busybody and intensely frowned upon.

s73v3r_ 8y ago
Even when those political activities are them saying that you are not deserving of the same rights as other people?
- insvwallhitsyou 8y ago
  If I want to be entitled to my opinion, I have to allow others to have theirs.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    I find it insane that you believe that whether someone gets basic human rights is something that people should get to have opinions about.
  - insvwallhitsyou 8y ago
    Downvoted and flagged. Apparently, this is now considered a scandalous idea.
    - dang 8y ago
      It's a tedious flamewar. We're trying to keep those off HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      When that opinion is that certain people are not deserving of basic human rights, I would hope that it would be considered scandalous.

austincheney 8y ago

Perhaps. The issue here is should somebody be completely destroyed for a difference of opinion? In the Bay Area the answer is a resounding yes. Tolerance is a comforting and popular term in the Bay Area. What people there are actually seeking is the enemy of tolerance: harmony. I really don’t care about people’s silly justifications for not seeing the difference, because either way it’s generally a personal delusion, a self-deception.

s73v3r_ 8y ago
"The issue here is should somebody be completely destroyed for a difference of opinion?" Calling it a "difference of opinion" is really masking the entire thing. He was saying that, not only are LGBT people not deserving of the same rights that he had, but that we should be able to vote on what rights they have. Can you see how dehumanizing that is? And I cannot take your bit about "tolerance" seriously when we're talking about someone who, themselves, was not showing any kind of tolerance.
- austincheney 8y ago
  Tolerance is appreciation of disagreement, so it really seems that you are misusing that term to qualify something not stated.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    Again, I find it insane that you are calling someone saying that a group of people are not entitled to basic human rights and dignity a "disagreement". You have disagreements over what pizza toppings to get, not if you are allowed to decide if two people in love are allowed to marry.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> The issue here is should somebody be completely destroyed for a difference of opinion? I've seen Eich doing a lot of things in business (and posting around here) since the dust-up; I don't think he was “completely destroyed”.