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Personally, I want us to find a way to hold universities accountable for handing out bullshit degrees that aren't remotely worth what they charge. A dead give-
by JPKab 8y ago
Personally, I want us to find a way to hold universities accountable for handing out bullshit degrees that aren't remotely worth what they charge.
A dead give-away that there is a problem is that every degree costs the same to acquire. That is insane and archaic.
- tsunamifury 8y agoThis isn't the case. Law, Medical, and MBA's all cost more partly due to expected income.
- thfuran 8y agoHow are you measuring the worth of a degree? And do you think designer brands of durable goods (or even consumables) shouldn't be allowed to charge more than other brands?
- linuxftw 8y agoHere's how to hold them accountable: People stop buying their product. Unfortunately, mass brainwashing has been super effective, everyone's gonna get rich buying index funds and going a 4 year degree, just you wait and see!
- godelski 8y agoWhy not the banks who are giving out the risky loans? They know a degree in underwater basket weaving isn't going to pay off a $100k loan. In most other circumstances a bank does a risk analysis. And it isn't like they don't know what degree the borrower is pursuing. While the banks are giving money the universities are incentivized (because they are profit seeking) to increase prices and provide overpriced degrees.
- EpicEng 8y agoYou mean the fed? Because banks wouldn't be giving these loans if they were guaranteed.
- Eire_Banshee 8y agoStudent loans are guaranteed by the federal government, right? Thats why banks dont care. Its just the private student loans banks worry about.
- blancheneige 8y agocorrect: https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/ https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/ this is the subprime bubble all over again, with the govt providing a risk free opportunity for private entities to maintain the insane price runaway until it all comes crashing down.
- zone411 8y agoIncorrect. The private loans are no longer guaranteed by the government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_Aid_and_Fiscal_Responsibility_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_Aid_and_Fiscal_Respons...
- godelski 8y agoYes. But my problem with it is that this rule was written as a solution for a problem whose roots dig far deeper and need to be addressed there, not at this level. Making this an unintended side effect. But I think you need to address the real problem too.
- chongli 8y agoNot here at Waterloo. Engineering costs way way more than Arts. Math is reasonable but CS is twice as much.