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I think the only times I lost data in the last 10 years or so was because someone accidentally deleted stuff on a shared Dropbox (luckily I had a local backup,

I think the only times I lost data in the last 10 years or so was because someone accidentally deleted stuff on a shared Dropbox (luckily I had a local backup, so only the most recent changes got lost). Oh and I lost some photos that I uploaded to a Facebook clone because they more or less shut down. Data loss is more or less a solved problem. You don't need Google for that. ;-) On the other hand, even without putting my tin hat on: I get customized ads best on my email contents, WTF?! Everybody can see based on the browser ads what kind of sites I'm surfing to. > Internet and power outages mean you won't send or receive any email. Except if you have a charged battery and LTE. ;-) In fact just a charged battery is needed when network is down to read old mails. > Fire, theft, or hurricanes may destroy it. Solved problem. Encryption...

lolc 8y ago
I'm not sure you understood how helm works. Your answers don't seem to relate to the concerns of a self-hosted solution.
- blablabla123 8y ago
  Can you be more specific?
  - lolc 8y ago
    The original post was about the perils of hosting your mails at home. I'm not clear what your answer is about. For example, in a power outage, Helm won't work. You say it's not a problem with a charged battery and LTE. I think you're talking about a cell phone and I don't understand how that's related. Sure, one could run Helm on a UPS with LTE backup. But then that's extra infrastructure against the promised simplicity. Also I don't see how encryption prevents the device from being physically destroyed.
    - blablabla123 8y ago
      > For example, in a power outage, Helm won't work. I mean you can connect it to a Uninterupptible Power Supply "USP". It's not clear if they have a high power USB connector to connect USB batteries, however: "Built-in battery backup for safe shutdown On mode: 10 W Standby: 0.4 W" (https://thehelm.com/pages/technology https://thehelm.com/pages/technology) > LTE backup. But then that's extra infrastructure against > the promised simplicity. There are low-cost routers with USB ports that allow plugging in an LTE stick. > Also I don't see how encryption prevents the device from > being physically destroyed. You can create a backup and store it on an untrusted storage (cloud for instance). I'm surprised these devices didn't take off 5 years ago already, as this is technology wise almost a step backwards into the 90s. But I think it's worth it, and in fact you don't need helm to set up a system like this yourself. Get a Raspi, stuff an LTE stick and a juicy USB storage into it together with external USB-battery in passthrough and you even have a superior device.
      - lolc 8y ago
        You are introducing a lot of moving parts to go from 99% to 99.5% availability. And you can't get much better than this at home. In that vein, for most people, the availability of a Raspi solution would be 0%. They just can't handle it. If you can accept the bad availability Helm looks like a fine solution to get your mail out of the cloud.
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lolc 8y ago

I'm not sure you understood how helm works. Your answers don't seem to relate to the concerns of a self-hosted solution.

blablabla123 8y ago
Can you be more specific?
- lolc 8y ago
  The original post was about the perils of hosting your mails at home. I'm not clear what your answer is about. For example, in a power outage, Helm won't work. You say it's not a problem with a charged battery and LTE. I think you're talking about a cell phone and I don't understand how that's related. Sure, one could run Helm on a UPS with LTE backup. But then that's extra infrastructure against the promised simplicity. Also I don't see how encryption prevents the device from being physically destroyed.
  - blablabla123 8y ago
    > For example, in a power outage, Helm won't work. I mean you can connect it to a Uninterupptible Power Supply "USP". It's not clear if they have a high power USB connector to connect USB batteries, however: "Built-in battery backup for safe shutdown On mode: 10 W Standby: 0.4 W" (https://thehelm.com/pages/technology https://thehelm.com/pages/technology) > LTE backup. But then that's extra infrastructure against > the promised simplicity. There are low-cost routers with USB ports that allow plugging in an LTE stick. > Also I don't see how encryption prevents the device from > being physically destroyed. You can create a backup and store it on an untrusted storage (cloud for instance). I'm surprised these devices didn't take off 5 years ago already, as this is technology wise almost a step backwards into the 90s. But I think it's worth it, and in fact you don't need helm to set up a system like this yourself. Get a Raspi, stuff an LTE stick and a juicy USB storage into it together with external USB-battery in passthrough and you even have a superior device.
    - lolc 8y ago
      You are introducing a lot of moving parts to go from 99% to 99.5% availability. And you can't get much better than this at home. In that vein, for most people, the availability of a Raspi solution would be 0%. They just can't handle it. If you can accept the bad availability Helm looks like a fine solution to get your mail out of the cloud.

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