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> As for Edge it is already in development, and to be honest it doesn't matter with its insignificant market share. Market shares are not the same across count

by aikah 8y ago

> As for Edge it is already in development, and to be honest it doesn't matter with its insignificant market share. Market shares are not the same across countries, clients or even industries. That's the first mistake you are making. If I develop a product, I target whatever browser my customers use, not some world wide statistic that has very little local significance. You just don't get to ignore what goes against your point just to feel that you are winning an argument, that's childish. > 100% on mobile Web. Which is False, Firefox on Android doesn't support web components. > Firefox already on beta. Which doesn't matter if support has not shipped. "will ship" is not "has shipped". I am only interested in current support, as we speak, I was never talking about "will eventually ship" since I don't work with eventual features, obviously.

pjmlp 8y ago
Firefox on mobile does not count for the majority of companies. Mobile web is all about Safari and Chrome. Again you keep avoiding to explain what "many browsers" means.
- jimsmart 8y ago
  According to netmarketshare[0], on desktop[1], Edge currently has 3.8% market share, more than Safari and Opera together. Combining mobile+desktop Edge has 2%. Edge cannot be ignored if one is serious about any kind of business: that's 3-4 out of every 100 desktop users (existing or potential customers), or 'just' 2/100 if one includes mobile. — Honestly, it seems that you are trolling. But I post the above stats in case you are not. But I also back it up with my own personal 'anecdata': I build business-to-business ecommerce, in our specific market our users are primarily (>95%) using desktop browsers, we have many thousands of existing business relationships, we cannot mandate which browsers they use — we draw the line at having the site simply work in all "modern browsers", which obviously includes Edge. It doesn't really matter whether it's "many browsers" that don't support Web Components, or whether it's just one major browser. For many businesses, choosing WC is simply not a viable option for the foreseeable future. [0] No affiliation, just googled it. [1] https://netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx https://netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    You are reading it wrong, it is not me that mandates the browsers. I have written already in multiple answers, it is the customers that decide which browsers should a given project support, by explicitly stating them on the project delivery contract. So your customers care about EDGE, fine. Many don't.

by aikah 8y ago

pjmlp 8y ago

Firefox on mobile does not count for the majority of companies. Mobile web is all about Safari and Chrome. Again you keep avoiding to explain what "many browsers" means.

jimsmart 8y ago
According to netmarketshare[0], on desktop[1], Edge currently has 3.8% market share, more than Safari and Opera together. Combining mobile+desktop Edge has 2%. Edge cannot be ignored if one is serious about any kind of business: that's 3-4 out of every 100 desktop users (existing or potential customers), or 'just' 2/100 if one includes mobile. — Honestly, it seems that you are trolling. But I post the above stats in case you are not. But I also back it up with my own personal 'anecdata': I build business-to-business ecommerce, in our specific market our users are primarily (>95%) using desktop browsers, we have many thousands of existing business relationships, we cannot mandate which browsers they use — we draw the line at having the site simply work in all "modern browsers", which obviously includes Edge. It doesn't really matter whether it's "many browsers" that don't support Web Components, or whether it's just one major browser. For many businesses, choosing WC is simply not a viable option for the foreseeable future. [0] No affiliation, just googled it. [1] https://netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx https://netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx
- pjmlp 8y ago
  You are reading it wrong, it is not me that mandates the browsers. I have written already in multiple answers, it is the customers that decide which browsers should a given project support, by explicitly stating them on the project delivery contract. So your customers care about EDGE, fine. Many don't.