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I agree very strongly. My MIL was letting youtube auto-play and she didn't notice things were not quite "Moana" or "Elsa" before I turned it off abruptly, cau

I agree very strongly. My MIL was letting youtube auto-play and she didn't notice things were not quite "Moana" or "Elsa" before I turned it off abruptly, causing other family drama. This was in the middle of Elsa-Gate, of course. Anyway I don't have time to teach caregivers how to use social media (YouTube) so I just teach my 5 y/o she's not allowed to watch youtube without me.

xvector 8y ago
What is Elsa-Gate?
- rococode 8y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/ElsaGate/top/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ElsaGate/top/ Warning: Pretty creepy stuff and definitely NSFW. Very conspiratorial but it's one of the more evidence-backed conspiracies out there (in that you can do a search on YouTube and see the actual videos). Basically, there is some really weird stuff on YouTube directed at children.
  - booleandilemma 8y ago
    What conspiracy?
- andrewem 8y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsagate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsagate has an explanation
- jazzyjackson 8y ago
  See also, "Something is Wrong on the Internet" "Disturbing Peppa Pig videos, which tend towards extreme violence and fear, with Peppa eating her father or drinking bleach, are, it turns out very widespread. They make up an entire YouTube subculture. Many are obviously parodies, or even satires of themselves, in the pretty common style of the internet’s outrageous, deliberately offensive kind. All the 4chan tropes are there, the trolls are out, we know this." https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-internet-c39c471271d2 https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-in...
  - libraryatnight 8y ago
    When I paid any attention to 4chan, say 12 years or so ago, it always struck me as an odd place with some real creeps. But, I never imagined it'd become the hive of negativity and sadistic nihilism it seems to be today that's bleeding out all over the internet. The internet feels a lot darker than it did when I was a kid.
    - TangoTrotFox 8y ago
      Does it? I remember as a smart ass kid setting up fake meetings with people in various chat rooms on AOL. My friends and I were doing it thinking we were trolling other young kids who just wanted to meet up but, as an adult, I wonder how many of those other 'kids' so anxious to get into private chat and set up meetings were even kids at all. Also we were too dumb to think about things like indicators of what we'd be wearing/etc (to know how to identify us) were almost invariably unidirectional. Where did A/S/L? even come from? 4chan has turned more into a whipping boy for any sort of inconvenient issue, which is certainly not to say they aren't indeed heavy into trolling and other stuff - but they're also not this hive from which all issues originate from. People seem to forget that things like worldwide organized pedophilia networks, and worse, exist. And the internet provides an excellent venue for these people to organize and try to further their ends. Many of the 'elsa style' videos extensively feature sexual and sadistic content alongside drugs and alcohol. And then you get into the bizarre messages in the comments for each video. Those videos have been watched for billions of hours by children, on loop.
    - ConceptJunkie 8y ago
      >> But, I never imagined it'd become the hive of negativity and sadistic nihilism it seems to be today that's bleeding out all over the internet. Yeah, I feel the same way about cable news.

xvector 8y ago

What is Elsa-Gate?

rococode 8y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/ElsaGate/top/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ElsaGate/top/ Warning: Pretty creepy stuff and definitely NSFW. Very conspiratorial but it's one of the more evidence-backed conspiracies out there (in that you can do a search on YouTube and see the actual videos). Basically, there is some really weird stuff on YouTube directed at children.
- booleandilemma 8y ago
  What conspiracy?
andrewem 8y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsagate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsagate has an explanation
jazzyjackson 8y ago
See also, "Something is Wrong on the Internet" "Disturbing Peppa Pig videos, which tend towards extreme violence and fear, with Peppa eating her father or drinking bleach, are, it turns out very widespread. They make up an entire YouTube subculture. Many are obviously parodies, or even satires of themselves, in the pretty common style of the internet’s outrageous, deliberately offensive kind. All the 4chan tropes are there, the trolls are out, we know this." https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-internet-c39c471271d2 https://medium.com/@jamesbridle/something-is-wrong-on-the-in...
- libraryatnight 8y ago
  When I paid any attention to 4chan, say 12 years or so ago, it always struck me as an odd place with some real creeps. But, I never imagined it'd become the hive of negativity and sadistic nihilism it seems to be today that's bleeding out all over the internet. The internet feels a lot darker than it did when I was a kid.
  - TangoTrotFox 8y ago
    Does it? I remember as a smart ass kid setting up fake meetings with people in various chat rooms on AOL. My friends and I were doing it thinking we were trolling other young kids who just wanted to meet up but, as an adult, I wonder how many of those other 'kids' so anxious to get into private chat and set up meetings were even kids at all. Also we were too dumb to think about things like indicators of what we'd be wearing/etc (to know how to identify us) were almost invariably unidirectional. Where did A/S/L? even come from? 4chan has turned more into a whipping boy for any sort of inconvenient issue, which is certainly not to say they aren't indeed heavy into trolling and other stuff - but they're also not this hive from which all issues originate from. People seem to forget that things like worldwide organized pedophilia networks, and worse, exist. And the internet provides an excellent venue for these people to organize and try to further their ends. Many of the 'elsa style' videos extensively feature sexual and sadistic content alongside drugs and alcohol. And then you get into the bizarre messages in the comments for each video. Those videos have been watched for billions of hours by children, on loop.
  - ConceptJunkie 8y ago
    >> But, I never imagined it'd become the hive of negativity and sadistic nihilism it seems to be today that's bleeding out all over the internet. Yeah, I feel the same way about cable news.