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> Google is alleged to be dominant in "licensable smart mobile operating systems and app stores for the Android mobile operating system" That's kind of a weird

> Google is alleged to be dominant in "licensable smart mobile operating systems and app stores for the Android mobile operating system" That's kind of a weird statement, of course they are dominant / monopolistic on Android, just like Apple has a monopoly on iOS.

bluGill 8y ago
Android is dominate in cell phones, even if you count the iphone. I don't know the numbers for the EU, but worldwide Android is larger than the 40% threshold to be considered a monopoly in the EU.
- gervase 8y ago
  If you're interested, 2018 statistics show Android's share of the smartphone space as 54% in the US, 73% in Europe, and 88% globally, all above the 40% threshold.
AnssiH 8y ago
Maybe the formatting wasn't entirely clear, but "licensable smart mobile operating systems" and "app stores for the Android mobile operating system" are two different categories. As for the latter being a thing but Apple not getting into trouble for their iOS App Store monopoly, I guess that is because Apple isn't using that "dominant position" to prop up a dominant position in another market (like Google is propping up their dominance in search engines). Or maybe the overall consumer harm is considered to be much smaller, considering that Android has 80% smart mobile device market share in Europe (according to the EC press release), and iOS has a much smaller share.
- ryanobjc 8y ago
  going after google but not apple sets a weird lesson. That lesson is: don't be in the "licensable smart mobile operating system" market. I'm not sure if this is an outcome I want.
  - megy 8y ago
    No, the lesson is don't use your dominance to unfairly promote yourself. Do you guys really find this confusing?
  - wowamit 8y ago
    I believe even if that lesson is set, it would be beneficial. As it leaves a space open for another player in smart mobile operating system -- in turn creates more competition in the market. By giving Android for free, the market stayed duopoly.

bluGill 8y ago

Android is dominate in cell phones, even if you count the iphone. I don't know the numbers for the EU, but worldwide Android is larger than the 40% threshold to be considered a monopoly in the EU.

gervase 8y ago
If you're interested, 2018 statistics show Android's share of the smartphone space as 54% in the US, 73% in Europe, and 88% globally, all above the 40% threshold.

AnssiH 8y ago

Maybe the formatting wasn't entirely clear, but "licensable smart mobile operating systems" and "app stores for the Android mobile operating system" are two different categories. As for the latter being a thing but Apple not getting into trouble for their iOS App Store monopoly, I guess that is because Apple isn't using that "dominant position" to prop up a dominant position in another market (like Google is propping up their dominance in search engines). Or maybe the overall consumer harm is considered to be much smaller, considering that Android has 80% smart mobile device market share in Europe (according to the EC press release), and iOS has a much smaller share.

ryanobjc 8y ago
going after google but not apple sets a weird lesson. That lesson is: don't be in the "licensable smart mobile operating system" market. I'm not sure if this is an outcome I want.
- megy 8y ago
  No, the lesson is don't use your dominance to unfairly promote yourself. Do you guys really find this confusing?
- wowamit 8y ago
  I believe even if that lesson is set, it would be beneficial. As it leaves a space open for another player in smart mobile operating system -- in turn creates more competition in the market. By giving Android for free, the market stayed duopoly.