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everything wikileaks has done is not only more "news" than hacker news, but also more "hacker" than hacker news.

Locke1689 16y ago
That's a pretty worthless comment if you don't have justification for either of those two points. I see you haven't been here long, though, and your karma seems to be reflecting that you don't really get HN yet, so if you're just trolling you can ignore this comment.
- babeKnuth 16y ago
  i'm not sure what you mean by "worthless". it's just taking the two terms and going by their def'n. seems fairly obvious. news - wikileaks provides information to the public hacker - ummmmm, i'd have to ask you what your def'n is here. this is just fairly obvious. a lot of their data is acquired through electronic means. p.s. i don't post often (not much time), and i've been here quite a while. my karma is due to one comment making a digital underground reference not many people got (look it up). that's all irrelevant tho (only people with X karma and X years on hn are qualified to post?).
  - Locke1689 16y ago
    hacker - ummmmm, i'd have to ask you what your def'n is here. this is just fairly obvious. a lot of their data is acquired through electronic means. My definition certainly doesn't end at "uses electronics." Today I turned on a light. Should I describe the contents of my room? It was information gathered through electronic means.
- babeKnuth 16y ago
  also, from hn guidelines http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. E.g. "That is an idiotic thing to say; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."" so i guess you don't get hn either....
  - Locke1689 16y ago
    My annoyance may have gotten the better of me, but I stand by my claim that your post essentially boiled down to "nu-uh, it totally does!" Pointing out that you need to make an actual argument to convince people doesn't seem outrageous to me. As far as calling names was concerned, I actually suspected that you were just trolling me.
    - babeKnuth 16y ago
      no prob. wasn't trolling. apologies for the pithy comment if it came across as such. main point was that wikileaks, for me, provides much more insight/info/"bootstrapping-a-new-source-of-news" than most of the stuff i see on hn. hence, i'd rather keep it's presence on here than have it removed. (again, it might only be me that's interested in such things, but judging from some of the comments, it looks like i'm not alone). whether you agree or disagree with the tone/perspective of wikileaks, they are a resource of information that is "changing the industry" (or whatever hollow cliche is usually spouted up by VCs/investors). hence by either interpretation of "hacker news" (either strictly an entrepreneurial/start-up resource or something akin to 2600), their activities/approaches can be insightful to some of us.

That's a pretty worthless comment if you don't have justification for either of those two points. I see you haven't been here long, though, and your karma seems to be reflecting that you don't really get HN yet, so if you're just trolling you can ignore this comment.

babeKnuth 16y ago
i'm not sure what you mean by "worthless". it's just taking the two terms and going by their def'n. seems fairly obvious. news - wikileaks provides information to the public hacker - ummmmm, i'd have to ask you what your def'n is here. this is just fairly obvious. a lot of their data is acquired through electronic means. p.s. i don't post often (not much time), and i've been here quite a while. my karma is due to one comment making a digital underground reference not many people got (look it up). that's all irrelevant tho (only people with X karma and X years on hn are qualified to post?).
- Locke1689 16y ago
  hacker - ummmmm, i'd have to ask you what your def'n is here. this is just fairly obvious. a lot of their data is acquired through electronic means. My definition certainly doesn't end at "uses electronics." Today I turned on a light. Should I describe the contents of my room? It was information gathered through electronic means.
babeKnuth 16y ago
also, from hn guidelines http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. E.g. "That is an idiotic thing to say; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."" so i guess you don't get hn either....
- Locke1689 16y ago
  My annoyance may have gotten the better of me, but I stand by my claim that your post essentially boiled down to "nu-uh, it totally does!" Pointing out that you need to make an actual argument to convince people doesn't seem outrageous to me. As far as calling names was concerned, I actually suspected that you were just trolling me.
  - babeKnuth 16y ago
    no prob. wasn't trolling. apologies for the pithy comment if it came across as such. main point was that wikileaks, for me, provides much more insight/info/"bootstrapping-a-new-source-of-news" than most of the stuff i see on hn. hence, i'd rather keep it's presence on here than have it removed. (again, it might only be me that's interested in such things, but judging from some of the comments, it looks like i'm not alone). whether you agree or disagree with the tone/perspective of wikileaks, they are a resource of information that is "changing the industry" (or whatever hollow cliche is usually spouted up by VCs/investors). hence by either interpretation of "hacker news" (either strictly an entrepreneurial/start-up resource or something akin to 2600), their activities/approaches can be insightful to some of us.