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Sorry, where does Apple have a majority marketshare in Europe?

kiallmacinnes 8y ago
Probably in Ireland. It seems to me that (aka: I have no data) the vast majority of Irish use an iPhone. The carriers have iPhones at roughly the same price as a half-decent Android phone, and those that can't afford to do that, get them second hand (usually older models..). I have an Android, and I know several techie friends with Androids, but "normal people" have iPhones. Really - It's almost a surprise to see someone with an Android here..
- mywacaday 8y ago
  Irish as well and have the opposite experience. Everyone from teenagers using cheap android phones up to to a lot of people i know using the latest Samsung. A lot of companies that would have previously used Blackberry but moved to to Iphones are now starting to move to android.
- berbec 8y ago
  It seems like that here in New York too, but I believe it s because iPhones are the only instantly recognizable phone. If I look I can tell iPhone or other very easily.
  - kiallmacinnes 8y ago
    Maybe, but I do recognize "not an iPhone" too - I'm a techie who loves his Android phone ;) As I said, I've no data.. I'd love to see some though!
- buboard 8y ago
  https://deviceatlas.com/blog/5-facts-about-mobile-market-in-ireland https://deviceatlas.com/blog/5-facts-about-mobile-market-in-... That said the rest of Europe is definitely android
  - morsch 8y ago
    So 54% iPhones, 43% Android. Hardly a vast majority.
    - shinratdr 8y ago
      Those stats are two years old. Everything I can find says Ireland is majority Android.
  - shinratdr 8y ago
    Those stats are two years old. http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/ireland http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/ireland Current stats show Android in the lead. As it is almost everywhere.
- shinratdr 8y ago
  http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/ireland http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/ireland Not according to this.
wstrange 8y ago
If you measure by App store revenue[1], the picture looks a bit different. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/apples-app-store-revenue-nearly-double-that-of-google-play-in-first-half-of-2018/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/apples-app-store-revenue-n...
- shinratdr 8y ago
  If I measure by market cap it also looks different, but that's an equally irrelevant measurement in this case. The issue here is where the anti-trust line is drawn. Why people in the tech side never seem to understand this is beyond me, but the line is clear. It has everything to do with your marketshare. Google could make zero dollars off Android, if they still own & control it and it reaches a vast majority marketshare, as it has in Europe, then they are pressured to open it up and increase competition within the platform. Whining about Apple and whataboutism is ridiculous. They are not the majority of devices in any major region (NA/Europe/Asia/Worldwide). Some isolated countries are majority iOS, but they all exist within the EU and the EU is 75% Android.

Probably in Ireland. It seems to me that (aka: I have no data) the vast majority of Irish use an iPhone. The carriers have iPhones at roughly the same price as a half-decent Android phone, and those that can't afford to do that, get them second hand (usually older models..). I have an Android, and I know several techie friends with Androids, but "normal people" have iPhones. Really - It's almost a surprise to see someone with an Android here..

mywacaday 8y ago
Irish as well and have the opposite experience. Everyone from teenagers using cheap android phones up to to a lot of people i know using the latest Samsung. A lot of companies that would have previously used Blackberry but moved to to Iphones are now starting to move to android.
berbec 8y ago
It seems like that here in New York too, but I believe it s because iPhones are the only instantly recognizable phone. If I look I can tell iPhone or other very easily.
- kiallmacinnes 8y ago
  Maybe, but I do recognize "not an iPhone" too - I'm a techie who loves his Android phone ;) As I said, I've no data.. I'd love to see some though!
buboard 8y ago
https://deviceatlas.com/blog/5-facts-about-mobile-market-in-ireland https://deviceatlas.com/blog/5-facts-about-mobile-market-in-... That said the rest of Europe is definitely android
- morsch 8y ago
  So 54% iPhones, 43% Android. Hardly a vast majority.
  - shinratdr 8y ago
    Those stats are two years old. Everything I can find says Ireland is majority Android.
- shinratdr 8y ago
  Those stats are two years old. http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/ireland http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/ireland Current stats show Android in the lead. As it is almost everywhere.
shinratdr 8y ago
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/ireland http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/ireland Not according to this.

wstrange 8y ago

If you measure by App store revenue[1], the picture looks a bit different. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/apples-app-store-revenue-nearly-double-that-of-google-play-in-first-half-of-2018/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/apples-app-store-revenue-n...

shinratdr 8y ago
If I measure by market cap it also looks different, but that's an equally irrelevant measurement in this case. The issue here is where the anti-trust line is drawn. Why people in the tech side never seem to understand this is beyond me, but the line is clear. It has everything to do with your marketshare. Google could make zero dollars off Android, if they still own & control it and it reaches a vast majority marketshare, as it has in Europe, then they are pressured to open it up and increase competition within the platform. Whining about Apple and whataboutism is ridiculous. They are not the majority of devices in any major region (NA/Europe/Asia/Worldwide). Some isolated countries are majority iOS, but they all exist within the EU and the EU is 75% Android.