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Ok I’ll bite. Another unsubstantiated conservative canard: taxes are bad. When in fact highly redistributive polices are correlated with all-boats-rising econom
by jchanimal 8y ago
Ok I’ll bite. Another unsubstantiated conservative canard: taxes are bad. When in fact highly redistributive polices are correlated with all-boats-rising economic tides. “But who cares if we are all worse off, taxes are theft,” whines the conservative. Cry me a river, it was always already the government’s money.
- warrenm 8y ago> it was always already the government’s money Sounds like you went to the same fallacious economic school Elizabeth Warren did
- jchanimal 8y agoI'm not the one choosing to fetishize some government's money.
- AnimalMuppet 8y agoYou're the one choosing to fetishize a soundbite that most consider to be clearly wrong, if not completely insane. Merely repeating it is not a good persuasion tactic.
- weberc2 8y ago> “But who cares if we are all worse off, taxes are theft,” whines the conservative You're proving my point. This is a fringe conservative position (conservatives are okay with taxes for critical infrastructure, national defense, some minimal social safety net, etc), but you're using that brush to paint all conservatives. Sadly, portraying moderates as extremists has become a goto debate tactic for the left wing, and it's frankly _boring_ never mind morally repugnant.
- jchanimal 8y agoYou can't say that and keep Grover Norquist as a standard-bearer and treat "starve the beast" as a legitimate governing philosophy...
- weberc2 8y agoI don't know any conservatives who consider Norquist a standard-bearer. And there's no dichotomy between believing some taxes are necessary and believing the current tax levels are excessive. 'Taxation is theft' is fringe libertarianism; 'taxation in moderation' probably does a good job of representing the budget hawk position (and not all conservatives are budget hawks!).
- AnimalMuppet 8y agoWhy do you think Grover Norquist is a standard bearer for weberc2? You seem to be willing to lump all conservatives together, but not willing to listen at all...
- weberc2 8y agoI’m not even a conservative :) Just a fan of honest dialog and intellectual consistency.