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More mentality than product, but I’m tired of companies not focusing on solving problems well and focusing more on generating a religion around their tech. I fe

More mentality than product, but I’m tired of companies not focusing on solving problems well and focusing more on generating a religion around their tech. I feel like prior to the iPod, things either worked well or didn’t. Now, you can put out the most half ass tech, generate a religion and have an “argument” against well matured tech and call for its death by fire. Looking at you NoSQL-anything. Maybe it’s always been this way, I’m only 31. I just feel that making a real attempt at solving a problem is now a discontinued goal. It’s all about that religion. And you know what, tech geeks are extremely religious. At times, I feel there are fundamentalist terrorists that’d tell Apple and NoSQL folks to chill out and have a cup of tolerance.

garganzol 8y ago
Yep, we are right at the middle of that craze. A group of buzz makers tries to steal the glory from the real titans under disguise of so called disruption. All without delivering the real value, but with tons of religious preaching. The computing industry probably reached the levels of Hollywood in 1930s where every Joe and Mary were going to make it. It clearly is a fad, but at the same time we have to face the fact that computing industry had become more mature. As a result, it started to absorb wider areas and masses of people. While the "preaching fad" will certainly fade away, we have to deal with increased technological segregation caused but the massive influx.
- corodra 8y ago
  As much as I wish you were correct, but I don't know if this is the "middle". It's all speculation. Hell, maybe tomorrow will be the day that social media will be banned and punishable by death by the Hague. But, I personally don't foresee too much of a slow down until there's a catastrophe due to it. Theranos I think is a good case study as to how the whole cult/religion mindset in tech is stupid and potentially dangerous. But that religious modal works fantastic in the scope of Apple and Google. Yes, there are the rebel movements against these guys, but let's be honest: "There's dozens of us! Dozens!". Relatively speaking to whom they cater to. Hell there will always be folks like Musk and Jobs. Both were the second coming of Jesus for their respective groups. Both are deeply flawed... well, assholes if you actually knew them. Jobs literally funded one of the largest sweatshops on the planet to make iPods and iPhones. Musk has the same emotional temperament as Trump. Facing the fact, most people in tech are just as religious as West Boro Baptist Church followers. Actually, I'd argue more because they don't realize they are. At least in most well rooted religions "Don't believe in false idols", at least teaches you that you are praying to something. That makes you aware that you are "praying". No difference between Sunday service and a tech stage conference with the giant projector images of everyone's current worshiping idol. "We removed the audio jack and you should all be happy, amen". And people clapped to that shit. This could actually be a super long legit post I could make. But long story short, Silicon Valley is the new Vatican. They're imposing their ideology of what they think is right (We own your personal information to better sell to you). Only difference, there's many more sects within it, all going for the same populous (Google, Apple, Facebook, etc). They hide behind having "faith in disruptive tech" but deliver, first off crap tech and second really intrusive, ethically shit-stained privacy practices. I'm getting soap boxy and this requires a lot of explaining. I still think there's still more room for this all to get worse. Obviously, I want to be wrong. Like, I hope one day you can go "Dude, you realize how stupid you were?" My legs are getting numb from doing this on a toilet with my phone.
  - pokemongoaway 8y ago
    Great summary of the situation. Also the reason why my reply will not be seen by almost anyone.
galfarragem 8y ago
> Maybe it’s always been this way I don't think so. I used to link the 'evangeliser' word with religion, now I link it to tech. Steve Jobs 'presentation style' was an exception, now is the rule everywhere - companies hire evangelisers to preach about their products/agenda as the truth. Religions morph but they will never disappear.
- corodra 8y ago
  I didn't even think of that, but you're right. The whole "evangelist" term, for tech, really did start popping up around the iPod era. My first conscious memory was the lead up to Adobe CS5. At the time, I thought it was weird, but funny, that they had "evangelists" for different products. Then, CS6 came around, I heard it again and I never flinched. Amazing how that shit can creep up slowly, then take over.

garganzol 8y ago

Yep, we are right at the middle of that craze. A group of buzz makers tries to steal the glory from the real titans under disguise of so called disruption. All without delivering the real value, but with tons of religious preaching. The computing industry probably reached the levels of Hollywood in 1930s where every Joe and Mary were going to make it. It clearly is a fad, but at the same time we have to face the fact that computing industry had become more mature. As a result, it started to absorb wider areas and masses of people. While the "preaching fad" will certainly fade away, we have to deal with increased technological segregation caused but the massive influx.

corodra 8y ago
As much as I wish you were correct, but I don't know if this is the "middle". It's all speculation. Hell, maybe tomorrow will be the day that social media will be banned and punishable by death by the Hague. But, I personally don't foresee too much of a slow down until there's a catastrophe due to it. Theranos I think is a good case study as to how the whole cult/religion mindset in tech is stupid and potentially dangerous. But that religious modal works fantastic in the scope of Apple and Google. Yes, there are the rebel movements against these guys, but let's be honest: "There's dozens of us! Dozens!". Relatively speaking to whom they cater to. Hell there will always be folks like Musk and Jobs. Both were the second coming of Jesus for their respective groups. Both are deeply flawed... well, assholes if you actually knew them. Jobs literally funded one of the largest sweatshops on the planet to make iPods and iPhones. Musk has the same emotional temperament as Trump. Facing the fact, most people in tech are just as religious as West Boro Baptist Church followers. Actually, I'd argue more because they don't realize they are. At least in most well rooted religions "Don't believe in false idols", at least teaches you that you are praying to something. That makes you aware that you are "praying". No difference between Sunday service and a tech stage conference with the giant projector images of everyone's current worshiping idol. "We removed the audio jack and you should all be happy, amen". And people clapped to that shit. This could actually be a super long legit post I could make. But long story short, Silicon Valley is the new Vatican. They're imposing their ideology of what they think is right (We own your personal information to better sell to you). Only difference, there's many more sects within it, all going for the same populous (Google, Apple, Facebook, etc). They hide behind having "faith in disruptive tech" but deliver, first off crap tech and second really intrusive, ethically shit-stained privacy practices. I'm getting soap boxy and this requires a lot of explaining. I still think there's still more room for this all to get worse. Obviously, I want to be wrong. Like, I hope one day you can go "Dude, you realize how stupid you were?" My legs are getting numb from doing this on a toilet with my phone.
- pokemongoaway 8y ago
  Great summary of the situation. Also the reason why my reply will not be seen by almost anyone.

galfarragem 8y ago

> Maybe it’s always been this way I don't think so. I used to link the 'evangeliser' word with religion, now I link it to tech. Steve Jobs 'presentation style' was an exception, now is the rule everywhere - companies hire evangelisers to preach about their products/agenda as the truth. Religions morph but they will never disappear.

corodra 8y ago
I didn't even think of that, but you're right. The whole "evangelist" term, for tech, really did start popping up around the iPod era. My first conscious memory was the lead up to Adobe CS5. At the time, I thought it was weird, but funny, that they had "evangelists" for different products. Then, CS6 came around, I heard it again and I never flinched. Amazing how that shit can creep up slowly, then take over.