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>nobody has or will make anything practical with Lisp I made a website with Clojure (a Lisp) that is indeed practical: http://practicalhuman.org http://practic

by sova 8y ago

>nobody has or will make anything practical with Lisp I made a website with Clojure (a Lisp) that is indeed practical: http://practicalhuman.org http://practicalhuman.org

mr_toad 8y ago
> I made a website with Clojure (a Lisp) Seems like you’d be in good company ‘round here then. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viaweb https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viaweb
lisper 8y ago
Barefoot Networks designs chips using an internal design tool written in Common Lisp.
abtinf 8y ago
Wasn’t PG’s original, pre-yahoo-acquisition e-commerce site written in Lisp?
- Annatar 8y ago
  Yep, and he made mucho dinero when they sold it to Yahoo. As far as I understood it, Lisp enabled them to implement features so fast that their would-be competitors couldn't keep pace.
  - allenbrunson 8y ago
    and yet. pg has been cheerleading for lisp since 2002 or so, and almost nobody has followed in his footsteps. the reddit guys believed him, tried it, and wound up doing a complete rewrite in python. https://redditblog.com/2005/12/05/on-lisp/ https://redditblog.com/2005/12/05/on-lisp/ so i'd have to say that the prevailing evidence says, to me, that pg's advice pretty much doesn't work, in the average case.
    - Annatar 8y ago
      Seems to me that the uptake has been picking up, in no small part to "Hacker News". Bear in mind that since Lisp programs get compiled to machine code, you might be using software written in it and not know it. And that's how it should be: high quality software should be small, fast, easy to install and the user shouldn't have to care what it's written in.
  - collyw 8y ago
    I have seen his essay on this and I am curious as to how relevant it is today, not so much because of languages, but because most languages have frameworks that will speed up a lot of the development time when used properly.
_emacsomancer_ 8y ago
I suppose HN is pretty impractical.
auvi 8y ago
Reddit was originally coded in Common Lisp
- emmanueloga_ 8y ago
  Any idea why they rewrote it? edit: https://redditblog.com/2005/12/05/on-lisp/ https://redditblog.com/2005/12/05/on-lisp/
- timbit42 8y ago
  So was Amazon.
  - ballpark 8y ago
    I've never heard that. I do remember seeing here on Hacker News an old job ad for Amazon (close to founding) that was looking for C++ programmers. [edit] Just found it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ba.jobs.offered/-rvJUMBbZ18 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ba.jobs.offered/-rvJ...

by sova 8y ago

>nobody has or will make anything practical with Lisp I made a website with Clojure (a Lisp) that is indeed practical: http://practicalhuman.org http://practicalhuman.org

mr_toad 8y ago

> I made a website with Clojure (a Lisp) Seems like you’d be in good company ‘round here then. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viaweb https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viaweb

lisper 8y ago

Barefoot Networks designs chips using an internal design tool written in Common Lisp.

abtinf 8y ago

Wasn’t PG’s original, pre-yahoo-acquisition e-commerce site written in Lisp?

Annatar 8y ago
Yep, and he made mucho dinero when they sold it to Yahoo. As far as I understood it, Lisp enabled them to implement features so fast that their would-be competitors couldn't keep pace.
- allenbrunson 8y ago
  and yet. pg has been cheerleading for lisp since 2002 or so, and almost nobody has followed in his footsteps. the reddit guys believed him, tried it, and wound up doing a complete rewrite in python. https://redditblog.com/2005/12/05/on-lisp/ https://redditblog.com/2005/12/05/on-lisp/ so i'd have to say that the prevailing evidence says, to me, that pg's advice pretty much doesn't work, in the average case.
  - Annatar 8y ago
    Seems to me that the uptake has been picking up, in no small part to "Hacker News". Bear in mind that since Lisp programs get compiled to machine code, you might be using software written in it and not know it. And that's how it should be: high quality software should be small, fast, easy to install and the user shouldn't have to care what it's written in.
- collyw 8y ago
  I have seen his essay on this and I am curious as to how relevant it is today, not so much because of languages, but because most languages have frameworks that will speed up a lot of the development time when used properly.

_emacsomancer_ 8y ago

I suppose HN is pretty impractical.

auvi 8y ago

Reddit was originally coded in Common Lisp

emmanueloga_ 8y ago
Any idea why they rewrote it? edit: https://redditblog.com/2005/12/05/on-lisp/ https://redditblog.com/2005/12/05/on-lisp/
timbit42 8y ago
So was Amazon.
- ballpark 8y ago
  I've never heard that. I do remember seeing here on Hacker News an old job ad for Amazon (close to founding) that was looking for C++ programmers. [edit] Just found it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ba.jobs.offered/-rvJUMBbZ18 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ba.jobs.offered/-rvJ...