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> The company also noted it has never received a National Security Letter. Such NSLs are typically filed by intelligence agencies looking for company data. They
by EdSharkey 8y ago
> The company also noted it has never received a National Security Letter. Such NSLs are typically filed by intelligence agencies looking for company data. They also normally come with a gag order preventing businesses from revealing their very existence. That means that if Nest ever removes its disclaimer that it hasn’t received an NSL, it likely has been sent one.
Whenever I read copy like this, I read it as "no dragnet this time, nothing to see here! Keep buying Nest and other great products from Alphabet, Inc!" But is it possible that no NSL was ever sent and Google simply provides a data feed of all relevant info and video to their national security partners? (A generously paid-for feed, of course.)
I guess what I'm asking is, is an NSL required for Google to legally surveil its customers on behalf of the host government? Beyond sheer EULA license legal weasel-wording, I'm wondering if the fourth amendment restricts the US government from arranging for a dragnet-style data feed from some willing corporate partner.
- cryoshon 8y ago> I'm wondering if the fourth amendment restricts the US government from arranging for a dragnet-style data feed from some willing corporate partner. it doesn't. NSA has had room 631 at AT&T for over a decade now. and, of course, everywhere else. there's almost certainly an API for government agencies that they can query without any new warrants -- think facebook, google, amazon, etc. i remember back in the day people used to say that these things were just conspiracy theories.