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The survey shows nearly 20% of respondents experienced some kind of harassment or assault and your only comment is “what about men?”. I’m sure if men within YC

The survey shows nearly 20% of respondents experienced some kind of harassment or assault and your only comment is “what about men?”. I’m sure if men within YC experience this kind of behaviour they can use the same reporting tools on bookface.

LyndsySimon 8y ago
The GP has a valid criticism - why weren't men included in the survey? That criticism does not detract from the results w/r/t to female founders in any way. > I’m sure if men within YC experience this kind of behaviour they can use the same reporting tools on bookface. I strongly suspect you're correct, but without seeing the tool I can't say for sure. Even so, the GP's criticism was "why weren't men included?", not "why aren't men able to report and act against sexual harassment?" I think men not being surveyed created an unhealthy environment for discussion - not because men experience harassment at the same level as women, but because they missed an opportunity to show that and as a community we get the very sort of conversations occurring in this thread. The GP voiced a criticism, and you seem to have taken it to mean that the GP felt that men's experiences are more important. I don't believe that was the intent going in to this project, nor do I believe that was what the GP intended.
GhostVII 8y ago
Is it not reasonable to ask for a study to include both men and women? At the very least it would be good as a point of comparison - if 20% of men also experience some type of harassment, the approach to solving the problem would likely be different than if very few men experienced harassment. Also just because someone posts a particular opinion, doesn't mean that is their only response. The obvious response is "this is a bad thing", but that has been said several times in this thread already, and wouldn't contribute to discussion at all. If something is worth discussing, why not let people discuss it.

LyndsySimon 8y ago

The GP has a valid criticism - why weren't men included in the survey? That criticism does not detract from the results w/r/t to female founders in any way. > I’m sure if men within YC experience this kind of behaviour they can use the same reporting tools on bookface. I strongly suspect you're correct, but without seeing the tool I can't say for sure. Even so, the GP's criticism was "why weren't men included?", not "why aren't men able to report and act against sexual harassment?" I think men not being surveyed created an unhealthy environment for discussion - not because men experience harassment at the same level as women, but because they missed an opportunity to show that and as a community we get the very sort of conversations occurring in this thread. The GP voiced a criticism, and you seem to have taken it to mean that the GP felt that men's experiences are more important. I don't believe that was the intent going in to this project, nor do I believe that was what the GP intended.

GhostVII 8y ago

Is it not reasonable to ask for a study to include both men and women? At the very least it would be good as a point of comparison - if 20% of men also experience some type of harassment, the approach to solving the problem would likely be different than if very few men experienced harassment. Also just because someone posts a particular opinion, doesn't mean that is their only response. The obvious response is "this is a bad thing", but that has been said several times in this thread already, and wouldn't contribute to discussion at all. If something is worth discussing, why not let people discuss it.