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Great that Facebook stores these things, otherwise it could not have been stolen.

thaumasiotes 8y ago
People put their phone number and location on Facebook for public display. It seems hard to blame Facebook for storing them.
- amag 8y ago
  ...and what about search history? I don't use Facebook but do people also put their search history on display there?
  - danso 8y ago
    I imagine search history data is used to facilitate and optimize repeat searches, e.g. repeatedly looking up your secret crush or exes.
    - TheCapn 8y ago
      It does actually... there used to be a way to pull out what people facebook "ranked" highest for you above others. That's why search isn't always alphabetical when you use it, it sorts the list by a preference score they generate based on how you interact with profiles
  - jowiar 8y ago
    The search box in the UI is populated with your last dozen-or-so searches. You can access that data about yourself, so presumably if someone has the ability to "view as" you, they can see it.
- XJOKOLAT 8y ago
  FUCK OFF you ignorant arsehole Is what I would have said.
- jakear 8y ago
  This isn’t just public phone numbers. This is also private numbers that should have only been used for 2FA. (If that wasn’t bad enough already...)
  - brainwad 8y ago
    Well, Facebook also has to store those, in order for 2FA to work. The point is, Facebook collected all of the data that was leaked for legitimate purposes, and the OP who implied they should just not have collected it is wrong. Facebook should have also designed their auth system more carefully, but that's a separate issue.
    - vec 8y ago
      > Facebook should have also designed their auth system more carefully, but that's a separate issue. It's not a separate issue, though. One of the main ways they could have been more careful in designing their auth system was by choosing mechanisms that didn't create "legitimate purposes" for additional data collection in the first place. This is a recurring theme in every data breach story that comes up. Every thread has someone correctly making the point that the company's business model requires them to store the leaked data, but this is not an excuse. Pick a more ethical business model.
      - thaumasiotes 8y ago
        > Every thread has someone correctly making the point that the company's business model requires them to store the leaked data, but this is not an excuse. Pick a more ethical business model. The two points in this thread are: - The company's customers specifically demand that the company store the leaked data, and they personally provide it in the expectation that it will be (1) stored and (2) released to other users. - You can't send 2FA codes to a phone number without knowing that phone number. What would a "more ethical business model" do to address either of those points?
        vec 8y ago
- StreamBright 8y ago
  Factually incorrect. https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/25/17160944/facebook-call-history-sms-data-collection-android https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/25/17160944/facebook-call-hi... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/03/facebook-track-browsing-history-california-lawsuit https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/03/facebook-...
- ionised 8y ago
  Seems pretty easy to blame them to me.

People put their phone number and location on Facebook for public display. It seems hard to blame Facebook for storing them.

amag 8y ago
...and what about search history? I don't use Facebook but do people also put their search history on display there?
- danso 8y ago
  I imagine search history data is used to facilitate and optimize repeat searches, e.g. repeatedly looking up your secret crush or exes.
  - TheCapn 8y ago
    It does actually... there used to be a way to pull out what people facebook "ranked" highest for you above others. That's why search isn't always alphabetical when you use it, it sorts the list by a preference score they generate based on how you interact with profiles
- jowiar 8y ago
  The search box in the UI is populated with your last dozen-or-so searches. You can access that data about yourself, so presumably if someone has the ability to "view as" you, they can see it.
XJOKOLAT 8y ago
FUCK OFF you ignorant arsehole Is what I would have said.
jakear 8y ago
This isn’t just public phone numbers. This is also private numbers that should have only been used for 2FA. (If that wasn’t bad enough already...)
- brainwad 8y ago
  Well, Facebook also has to store those, in order for 2FA to work. The point is, Facebook collected all of the data that was leaked for legitimate purposes, and the OP who implied they should just not have collected it is wrong. Facebook should have also designed their auth system more carefully, but that's a separate issue.
  - vec 8y ago
    > Facebook should have also designed their auth system more carefully, but that's a separate issue. It's not a separate issue, though. One of the main ways they could have been more careful in designing their auth system was by choosing mechanisms that didn't create "legitimate purposes" for additional data collection in the first place. This is a recurring theme in every data breach story that comes up. Every thread has someone correctly making the point that the company's business model requires them to store the leaked data, but this is not an excuse. Pick a more ethical business model.
    - thaumasiotes 8y ago
      > Every thread has someone correctly making the point that the company's business model requires them to store the leaked data, but this is not an excuse. Pick a more ethical business model. The two points in this thread are: - The company's customers specifically demand that the company store the leaked data, and they personally provide it in the expectation that it will be (1) stored and (2) released to other users. - You can't send 2FA codes to a phone number without knowing that phone number. What would a "more ethical business model" do to address either of those points?
      - vec 8y ago
StreamBright 8y ago
Factually incorrect. https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/25/17160944/facebook-call-history-sms-data-collection-android https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/25/17160944/facebook-call-hi... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/03/facebook-track-browsing-history-california-lawsuit https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/03/facebook-...
ionised 8y ago
Seems pretty easy to blame them to me.